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01-18-2015, 07:03 PM
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I'd say Ubuntu Server if you literally have no experience with Linux servers.

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01-19-2015, 03:16 AM
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Just because I have no experience doesn't mean I don't want to learn how to do it right. And nobody uses ubuntu server in the industry. My professor recommended centos since it provides the advantages of red hat but with free updates so I'm going to stick with that for now. Looks like the parts will be coming in on Tuesday.
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01-20-2015, 02:20 AM
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Does anyone own a XL2411Z here?
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01-20-2015, 05:19 AM
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(01-20-2015, 02:20 AM)Garteal Wrote: Does anyone own a XL2411Z here?

At your service.
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01-20-2015, 08:54 AM
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Sweet. I just got this monitor and is it me or is the viewing angle like... really bad? I'm getting a yellowish tint on the top half of the screen and if that wasn't enough, it also looks darker there and on the bottom half. The colors are so-so, but the blacks, oh god. Those are horrible. Color banding all over the place.

To cut it short: the yellow-ish tint on the top-side and it being a bit darker on the top half and bottom half with the top-left half being the darkest of em got me thinking whether my monitor is working properly or not.
Those bother me the most. The banding does too to be honest... but I could cope with it as the high refresh rates and the Blur Reduction are amazing. Also thinking of getting NVIDIA 3D Vision glasses for this thing so...

If everything mentioned above is normal then I need to decide quickly whether I'll keep the refresh rate or go for an IPS or so.
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01-20-2015, 09:18 AM (This post was last modified: 01-22-2015, 07:30 AM by kirbypuff.)
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It's a (crappy) TN panel. What did you expect? Smile

If you want a CRT-like picture [deep blacks and high contrast] (but some ghosting and a bit of contrast shift), go for VA.
If you want the best viewing angles and average black levels (but some *really annoying* glow), go for IPS.

Unlike TN, VA and IPS have no banding issues.
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01-20-2015, 12:20 PM
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(01-20-2015, 09:18 AM)kirbypuff Wrote: It's a (crappy) TN panel. What did you expect? Smile

If you want a CRT-like picture [deepest blacks and high contrast] (but some ghosting and a bit of contrast shift), go for VA.

or just get a crt
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01-20-2015, 12:28 PM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2015, 12:29 PM by NaturalViolence.)
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IPS also has by far the best color accuracy.

To elaborate:
TN: Lowest pixel response times (less ghosting), lowest cost, highest refresh rates, worst color, worst contrast, worst viewing angles, primarily aimed at ultra cheap or gaming monitors
VA: Medium pixel response times, medium cost, low refresh rates, mediocre color, highest contrast, poor viewing angles, benq is the only major US brand left that still uses them and they primarily target them as lower budget gaming monitors
IPS: Highest pixel response times, medium to high cost depending on the type and resolution, low refresh rates, best color, tied for worst contrast with TN, best viewing angles, used in a wide range of monitors, typically not used in "gaming monitors" due to low refresh rates and high pixel response times

There are many other factors to consider, this is just a quick overview. Also light bleed depends more on the backlighting and construction than the panel type.

Everything you describe is normal for a TN of this class Garteal. If you're ok with 60Hz 1080p I would strongly recommend an IPS. 1440p/2160p 120Hz IPS panels are still a few years away from mainstream adoption.
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01-20-2015, 10:02 PM (This post was last modified: 01-22-2015, 07:32 AM by kirbypuff.)
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(01-20-2015, 12:28 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: IPS also has by far the best color accuracy.

To elaborate:
TN: Lowest pixel response times (less ghosting), lowest cost, highest refresh rates, worst color, worst contrast, worst viewing angles, primarily aimed at ultra cheap or gaming monitors
VA: Medium pixel response times, medium cost, low refresh rates, mediocre color, highest contrast, poor viewing angles, benq is the only major US brand left that still uses them and they primarily target them as lower budget gaming monitors
IPS: Highest pixel response times, medium to high cost depending on the type and resolution, low refresh rates, best color, tied for worst contrast with TN, best viewing angles, used in a wide range of monitors, typically not used in "gaming monitors" due to low refresh rates and high pixel response times

There are many other factors to consider, this is just a quick overview. Also light bleed depends more on the backlighting and construction than the panel type.

Everything you describe is normal for a TN of this class Garteal. If you're ok with 60Hz 1080p I would strongly recommend an IPS. 1440p/2160p 120Hz IPS panels are still a few years away from mainstream adoption.

There's also SuperTN (Premium TN) and AMVA+ (BenQ's latest and greatest MVA panels).

Super TN has a true 8-bit panel for much beter colors and slightly better viewing angles.

AMVA+ has much better viewing angles than the previous MVA panels and no yellow tinting.
BenQ (AU Optronics) is not the only manufacturer of VA panels. There's also TPV. Their VA panels are even more impressive.

IPS is great on paper, until you experience its biggest flaw - the annoying IPS glow Sad
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01-21-2015, 01:33 AM
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I'm by no means an artist, so I never paid too much attention to the colours of my panel, but I can definitely say that there's no obvious tint or other discolouration. At the very least, if there is, then it's consistent across the whole panel and I've gotten used to it - although I don't remember noticing anything when I first got it, either.

That said, you've probably already discovered that the factory settings are god-damned fucking awful (and that's almost an understatement). If you want I could post the config I use, see if maybe that helps (unless you've already messed with the options enough to rule out wonky settings).

If I were you, Garteal, I'd try getting a replacement to see if it's any better. Regarding panel types, personally I'm completely fine with my TN one, especially since I use it mostly for gaming. Also, I'm never going back to 60Hz. But if you do a lot of colour-sensitive work, or just care about that more than the refresh rate and 3D, then TN probably isn't for you.

(By the way, why do people make a big deal out of viewing angles? I could possibly understand that you might watch a TV at an angle, but if it's a PC monitor you'll be sitting literally right in front of it. My monitor could have a 20-degree viewing angle threshold for all I care.)
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