Hardware Discussion Thread

DatKid20 · 10-16-2014, 05:15 AM **#641**

(10-16-2014, 04:14 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Wait, since when can android run on x86?

@MaJoR

All I know is it was a 2014 model, so I doubt it. And it seemed like a hardware issue.

@AON3

Google it.

Android on x86 has been a thing. Intel's baytrail processors can run on android and on windows. Plus there's the project to bring Android to all computers http://www.android-x86.org

**NaturalViolence** · 10-16-2014, 06:20 AM **#642**

@AON3

I still don't know what you're trying to do or what the cable is for.

**AnyOldName3** · 10-16-2014, 08:48 AM **#643**

It's this: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/silverstone-sst-ts10b-treasure-7mm-25-enclosure-usb-30-black

Ideally, I'd plug it in, then navigate to it in Windows explorer, then use it like any other USB hard drive. This works on the new laptop under Win8, uBuntu and through the bootloader. Under Windows 7 on my desktop it says it can't find a driver and then doesn't work.

DatKid20 · 10-16-2014, 02:58 PM **#644**

Did anyone know that the reason Kaveri sometimes lost to richland in benchmarks was because it throttled? The reason it throttled is because it was made for mobile first and temperatures that would be okay for Desktop were bad for mobile and so it throttled to 3.0ghz whenever a game was played or something that stressed the igpu.

garrlker · 10-16-2014, 03:08 PM **#645**

(10-16-2014, 05:15 AM)DatKid20 Wrote:
(10-16-2014, 04:14 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Wait, since when can android run on x86?

@MaJoR

All I know is it was a 2014 model, so I doubt it. And it seemed like a hardware issue.

@AON3

Google it.
Android on x86 has been a thing. Intel's baytrail processors can run on android and on windows. Plus there's the project to bring Android to all computers http://www.android-x86.org

That's so cool. Back when I first got into Linux around '08 I had actually downloaded an Android iso/img and burned it to a CD and booted it. It ran like crap on my celeron-m but I though it was cool.

sl23 · 10-18-2014, 07:49 PM **#646**

Hi, I know this is not the place for general tech questions like this, but I wasn't sure what else to do.

I'm building my first PC based on a mini ITX board and now need the final component a power supply. I bought everything else as I would have thought there would be guidelines on power consumption for each component, but I've found none of the components, other than the graphics card, gives any indication of power consumption required. So I'm stuck!

The components I have are as follows:

1. ASUS Z97I-Plus motherboard
2. Intel Core i7 4790K
3. Crucial RAM - CT5879699 BLT2C8G3D1608ET3LX0CEU.16FED
4. Crucial mSATA SSD - CT256M550SSD3.PK01 Crucial M550 256GB
5. Samsung 840 PRO 256GB SSD
6. EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 770 ACX SC 2GB Graphics card - Mnfr# 02G-P4-2774
7. I may also add one or two HDD's up to 2TB each or a single 4TB.

Other than that I don't plan on adding any other components in the future.

I was looking at EVGA's Supernova series. As the Graphics card manual states that it requires a constant 600w and 42A on the 12v rail as minimum, would the 750w be enough or should I go for the 850w?

How are people supposed to know how much is required for basic components likemotherboard, RAM, CPU, HDD, SSD if nothing is stated? Or is it simply that any PSU will suffice for a basic system?

I was also planning on upgrading the CPU fan with a Corsair water cooler as I plan on overclocking. Though not sure which to get here either.

I'm new to this so please forgive my ignorance!

Thanks for your help

Scott

**Garteal** · 10-18-2014, 08:04 PM **#647**

This fits right in the Hardware Discussion Thread or simply in DP. But I'll probably move this to the hardware thread in a second.

(10-18-2014, 07:49 PM)sl23 Wrote: I was looking at EVGA's Supernova series. As the Graphics card manual states that it requires a constant 600w and 42A on the 12v rail as minimum

Manufacturers always recommend overblown specifications. The card itself does not require a 600Watt PSU as its TDP is only +/-199 (that means how much power the GPU consumes on its own).
Looking at your configuration, a good, 600Watt PSU (80+ efficiency, etc) would be sufficient.

Quote:How are people supposed to know how much is required for basic components likemotherboard, RAM, CPU, HDD, SSD if nothing is stated? Or is it simply that any PSU will suffice for a basic system?

Read reviews of said components, most notably the CPU and GPU power consumption. You can also use this calculator as a reference.

Quote:I was also planning on upgrading the CPU fan with a Corsair water cooler as I plan on overclocking. Though not sure which to get here either.

You really don't need water cooling if you plan to overclock unless you really want that for specific reasons ofc. It's also more of a 'hassle' to install compared to an air cooler.

sl23 · 10-18-2014, 09:10 PM **#648**

(10-18-2014, 08:04 PM)Garteal Wrote: This fits right in the Hardware Discussion Thread or simply in DP. But I'll probably move this to the hardware thread in a second.

(10-18-2014, 07:49 PM)sl23 Wrote: I was looking at EVGA's Supernova series. As the Graphics card manual states that it requires a constant 600w and 42A on the 12v rail as minimum
Manufacturers always recommend overblown specifications. The card itself does not require a 600Watt PSU as its TDP is only +/-199 (that means how much power the GPU consumes on its own).
Looking at your configuration, a good, 600Watt PSU (80+ efficiency, etc) would be sufficient.

Quote:How are people supposed to know how much is required for basic components likemotherboard, RAM, CPU, HDD, SSD if nothing is stated? Or is it simply that any PSU will suffice for a basic system?
Read reviews of said components, most notably the CPU and GPU power consumption. You can also use this calculator as a reference.

Quote:I was also planning on upgrading the CPU fan with a Corsair water cooler as I plan on overclocking. Though not sure which to get here either.
You really don't need water cooling if you plan to overclock unless you really want that for specific reasons ofc. It's also more of a 'hassle' to install compared to an air cooler.

Sorry for posting in the wrong place, I should've read what the topic was about! I'm not too familiar with the forum layout.

Anyway, thanks for the advice. I was wondering how I was actually going to install the water cooler! From what I read on those, they seem more effective at keeping temp's down? As well as reducing noise? Out of curiosity, what are the specific reasons for requiring water coolers?

Thanks

**AnyOldName3** · 10-19-2014, 12:22 PM **#649**

A custom water cooling loop with massive radiators is noticeably better at cooling and being quiet than an air cooler, but also requires a tonne of planning and building and testing and money. A cheaper kit type cooler, such as a Corsair H100 is only a few percent better than a good air cooler, but costs far more. It's not worth the investment unless you're going all in, and even then it's only worth it if you're doing really serious overclocking or want your rig to look nice.

**Xtreme2damax** · 10-19-2014, 01:59 PM **#650**

I'm hoping to upgrade my gpu by the years end. Probably go with a GTX 970 or 960 if it's released before the end of this year. New motherboard and cpu by next year hopefully. Want to upgrade soon as this rig is showing it's age with struggling to run recent games.

Too bad I don't have the money else I'd do cpu, mobo, gpu, ram, 2x 3TB hdd and one ssd. One gpu will pretty much break me as it is so it will be at least two months worth of cash left over after bills are paid.