Hardware Discussion Thread

[Anti-Ultimate]

(12-19-2013, 06:39 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Anti-Ultimate Wrote:BIOS is set to adaptive.

I was right. That explains it. You really shouldn't do that.

Does it consume more power when I let it run at fixed? I'm really concerned about my power bills else.

I mean, I had it run fixed at 1.16V before and it was stable for 30 minutes at least. I'm in school right now so I can't check.

[KHRZ]

Anyone else saw what some devs has been up to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8YgVVtNRjg

(Wii U pad streaming demo beginning around 47.30)

[NaturalViolence]

Anti-Ultimate Wrote:Does it consume more power when I let it run at fixed? I'm really concerned about my power bills else.

Technically yes it does but I really doubt that you can't afford the extra 40 cents a month it will likely cost you.

Using a fixed voltage is generally safer.

[cole.roddy]

(12-31-2013, 12:13 AM)KHRZ Wrote: Anyone else saw what some devs has been up to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8YgVVtNRjg

(Wii U pad streaming demo beginning around 47.30)

I saw it on engadget today:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/29/hackers-reverse-engineer-wii-u-gamepad/?ncid=rss_truncated

Very interesting indeed.

[DatKid20]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anandtech.com%2Fshow%2F7677%2Famd-kaveri-review-a8-7600-a10-7850k&ei=ie3VUvKIF6y-sQT_7IKgBg&usg=AFQjCNHsx7iwsMD5mno8oyOih5Ikn1QcPg

Why AMD? Why? They already have issues on pricing with their gpus due to litecoin now this abomination shows it's face.

[NaturalViolence]

Rant: (Show Spoiler)

How did they double the transistor count and only pull off a 13-39% GPU performance improvement and no cpu performance improvement? This architecture is somehow even less efficient than its predecessor in performance per gate. 20nm manufacturing can't come soon enough for AMD. The only thing that's really impressive about this new chip is its GPU compute performance. Which is 2-3 times that of trinity/richland. Too bad there aren't any commonly used applications that make use of it and probably won't be for many years.

I for one am curious how the AMD fanboys will manage to spin this latest product lineup as being competitive. I mean they managed to do it back when bulldozer cost $300 and was way behind cheaper sandy/ivy bridge cpus in basically everything you could measure so clearly they can do it for anything.

Pretty much any $90 i3/athlon X4 CPU and $90 discrete GPU paired together will beat this $180 APU across the board.

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

(01-15-2014, 12:30 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Rant: (Show Spoiler)

How did they double the transistor count and only pull off a 13-39% GPU performance improvement and no cpu performance improvement? This architecture is somehow even less efficient than its predecessor in performance per gate. 20nm manufacturing can't come soon enough for AMD. The only thing that's really impressive about this new chip is its GPU compute performance. Which is 2-3 times that of trinity/richland. Too bad there aren't any commonly used applications that make use of it and probably won't be for many years.

I for one am curious how the AMD fanboys will manage to spin this latest product lineup as being competitive. I mean they managed to do it back when bulldozer cost $300 and was way behind cheaper sandy/ivy bridge cpus in basically everything you could measure so clearly they can do it for anything.

Pretty much any $90 i3/athlon X4 CPU and $90 discrete GPU paired together will beat this $180 APU across the board.

Im pretty sure AMD's only way to really get this going is major adoption of HSA and Mantle. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. I wanted AMD to succeed for the sake of competition (and a decent CPU I can put into my current mobo :/ ), but im not too happy with the situation. I guess ill be sticking to my 1055T for a while longer, or maybe a Vishera if im desperate for more threads in other applications (plus it can OC to the point where it would be a decent amount better than the 1055T) and wait for better days or if I can, buy an Intel mobo + CPU for dolphin and SC2.

Also to Datkid, blame the people who are buying all the cards (the miners). I swear... a TON of people are diving into this. I have a friend who has gotten several boxes with 2 or more cards in them each and are mining litecoin and Dogecoin (hilarious but a bit ridiculous)..... Of course he did make $200 the first week mining...

[lamedude]

Too bad the Rambus situation went down the way it did. 128bit 3.2+ GHZ would provide enough bandwidth to make these APUs work. Now we have to wait until 2015 before affordable DDR4 that's actually significantly faster than DDR3 arrives.

[AnyOldName3]

Don't knock mining until you try it. I left my computer mining for a few days while I was visiting relatives over Christmas, and made $40 of DOGE. This is on a card that's underpowered by modern standards. If I got a new one for mining (meaning AMD) as opposed to Blender/Gaming (meaning nVidia), then it wouldn't take a huge amount of time to pay for itself. I just sleep better when my computer's off, so can't leave it on all the time, and generally need it to be usable when I'm not asleep.

[ExtremeDude2]

And how much did you spend on power?