Hardware Discussion Thread

[admin89]

The good thing about clevo is that you can access pretty much all components once you remove the backplate . Yes , it's an easy job but I can't say the same for that Asus . It seems like it's quite hard to do so
My iiyama (clevo) laptop has only 1 fan for both GPU and CPU unlike most gaming laptop from clevo . It obviously will overheat if I don't use aftermarket TIM : IC diamond 7
The CPU is overclocked at 3.4GHz atm , max temp 90C with prime95 . In gaming , 82C is the max temp I can get
If you don't want to return your Asus , you will need to repaste the TIM (if possible)

[DacoTaco]

(01-23-2016, 08:21 PM)admin89 Wrote: I shouldn't take Dacotaco's joke seriously , the Z50 series are not gaming notebook , more likely ultrabook with low end ulv i7 and low end GPU . That's why it's 300$ cheaper

its specs are the bloody same (nearly)
the cpu is the only difference that laptop has. and imo for a laptop its far from worth it to get that

sure i have a GTX 840M but thats good enough for stuff these days.


look, what im trying to say is that gaming laptops are a joke and youre paying for overpriced stuff. use that money for a decent pc, please. you'll get better performance out of it. my ~650€ pc can outperform that laptop AND i'd have 250€ spare

yes i paid 300€ less for a laptop that so far, my only issue is a shitty trackpad driver and windows 10 who keeps reinstalling it (because shitty windows update). and you know what? it runs games -fine-
hell, technically better then my pc cause my pc's monitor has a shitty internal refresh rate.


(yes i hate laptops, sue me)
(also, dropping any laptop can cause damage. even if its just hard drive failure from the bang. wth for argument is that?)


EDIT:

(01-24-2016, 03:19 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: I work in IT and after with dealing with Lenovo on behalf of my clients many times I can easily say they are the worst of all of the major laptop manufacturers in every area (build quality, customer support, features, bloatware, etc.). Although all of the major laptop manufacturers (toshiba, HP, dell, etc.) are pretty bad.

i asked my friend who works in the shop i bought this laptop in and he said he gotten as much lenovo laptops back as other manufacturers. i asked this question in specific to you guys bashing lenovo.

[admin89]

Quote:its specs are the bloody same (nearly)
the cpu is the only difference that laptop has. and imo for a laptop its far from worth it to get that
sure i have a GTX 840M but thats good enough for stuff these days.

Typo you have there . GT 840M DDR3 and ulv dual core i7 vs GTX 960M GDDR5 + quad core i7 HQ ? You're funny

Quote: look, what im trying to say is that gaming laptops are a joke and youre paying for overpriced stuff. use that money for a decent pc, please. you'll get better performance out of it. my ~650€ pc can outperform that laptop AND i'd have 250€ spare

Well , if you're really into gaming , video encoding and portability , you won't need a desktop .
You can always wait new CPU to be released and buy a used gaming laptop . Got mine for only $700 which is half of the price and it's so far so good . I doubt I can build a desktop that has the same specs for 700$.

[DatKid20]

You could definitely build one with better.

[DacoTaco]

(01-24-2016, 01:31 PM)admin89 Wrote: Typo you have there . GT 840M DDR3 and ulv dual core i7 vs GTX 960M GDDR5 + quad core i7 HQ ? You're funny

no, core i5. i have a core i5. thats why on the website i didn't choose i7 when i was comparing price. with a core i7 the price would be even more different and even more silly.

(01-24-2016, 01:31 PM)admin89 Wrote: Well , if you're really into gaming , video encoding and portability , you won't need a desktop .
You can always wait new CPU to be released and buy a used gaming laptop . Got mine for only $700 which is half of the price and it's so far so good . I doubt I can build a desktop that has the same specs for 700$.

ye...

video encoding will -always- be more shit on a laptop, even on the "gaming" models because the cpu chips are low performance chips.
and thats a very specific group youre talking about that would need portability and video encoding/rendering. maybe somebody that works for a youtubing company or something (like in the linus media group). i think they have the money for even better laptops though that actually do perform awesomely.


and i love gaming as much as the next, but so far ive had no time to game when i was away from home so idk how you guys do it.


the only reason i can understand a person would like to game on a laptop is students who only have budget for one, and then a laptop with my specs will be just fine.


also, what are the specs of the 700€ used laptop? we could both be surprised by its comparison to my I5/8GB ram/GTX 650 Ti pc to be honest.

[NaturalViolence]

DacoTaco Wrote:i asked my friend who works in the shop i bought this laptop in and he said he gotten as much lenovo laptops back as other manufacturers. i asked this question in specific to you guys bashing lenovo.

He mostly only gets returns for major hardware defects. I get emails from my clients about any and all issues.

[Anti-Ultimate]

(01-24-2016, 06:30 PM)DacoTaco Wrote: video encoding will -always- be more shit on a laptop, even on the "gaming" models because the gpu chips are low performance chips.
and thats a very specific group youre talking about that would need portability and video encoding. maybe somebody that works for a youtubing company or something (like in the linus media group). i think they have the money for even better laptops though that actually do perform awesomely.

Unless they use CUDA to encode videos, what you said made no sense, since most video encoding is done on the CPU.

[DacoTaco]

(01-24-2016, 07:06 PM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: Unless they use CUDA to encode videos, what you said made no sense, since most video encoding is done on the CPU.

fair point, but rendering should, afaik, be faster with a decent gpu. then cpu kicks in for encoding.

also, my point still stands anyway

[Garteal]

(01-24-2016, 04:53 AM)KHg8m3r Wrote: I don't know if they ship to the Netherlands, but Sager, a brand that uses Clevo hardware, has always been good to me and everyone I've recommended them to.

Checked them out. They do ship to us, but for like $250.

(01-24-2016, 10:10 AM)admin89 Wrote: If you don't want to return your Asus , you will need to repaste the TIM (if possible)

Yeah I already returned the ASUS. Had it for a couple of hours and it spiked to 90c without doing anything (barely any load) and running Cinebench had it around 87~96c.

[admin89]

Quote:A very specific group youre talking about that would need portability and video encoding/rendering . Maybe somebody that works for a youtubing company or something (like in the linus media group). i think they have the money for even better laptops though that actually do perform awesomely.

I also do that . I rarely post my video on youtube though (I want all of my works are safe and sound ) . Quad Core with HT is fast , it really saved my time . I used to own i5 4300M @ 3.3GHz , it's so slow....
Here is one of those videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3kEfovP3O0

Quote:Yeah I already returned the ASUS. Had it for a couple of hours and it spiked to 90c without doing anything (barely any load) and running Cinebench had it around 87~96c.

Yikes! That sure scared me! Your decision is correct