Had a quick question about my Hardware and TOS

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

Well, im a bit new to these forums, however, I have visited quite a bit in the past since I do love this emulator.

Alright, I know AMD right now is suckish in the single core perfomance market right now, but that's what I'm on right now. So far, I have an AMD Phenom Thuban X6 (1055T) which is clocked at 3.7GHz currently. I plan on getting it higher because my fans on my WC loop for my CPU loop sucks since they are not running at the speeds they should be (it would be too embarrassing to say how many RPM's....) and hopefully tone down the heat even more so i can crank in a few extra volts. I'm currently running TOS (Tales of Symphonia) with LLE at 100% EVERYWHERE so far (even world map) except during battles with four players (or friendly AI's) at the same time with enemies. Otherwise, its pretty awesome. I was only wondering if you have any suggestions on what clock speed I should try to hit in order to get at least 90% speed in battles because right now it is hitting around 75% to 85% with LLE in bigger battles?

Thank You in Advance!

[Starscream]

It's hard to really say, you should just slowly overclock 100-200mhz at a time until you're satisfied. Naturally how high you go is up to you and you should know when to stop.

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

(09-28-2012, 10:48 AM)Starscream Wrote: It's hard to really say, you should just slowly overclock 100-200mhz at a time until you're satisfied. Naturally how high you go is up to you and you should know when to stop.

Alright, was just wondering if anybody had any experiances with this certain game on AMD hardware. Hope Piledriver has better single core performance than Thuban and Deneb (Phenom II's).... Lol Thanks for actually replying to a noob's thread! =)

[Shonumi]

One thing you should do is try out the official Dolphin 3.0 build (3.0 with no numbers after it). I would get 57~60 FPS mostly with 3.0-416, but I was annoyed that there were still those dangling 3 FPS I wasn't getting. 3.0 runs this game just fine, and it hasn't dropped on me at all. I was so close to constant fullspeed anyway, but I'm sure you'll notice a difference if you try it out for yourself.

As for your CPU, a Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge chip at 3.3GHz seems good enough to handle this game, so I guess you'll need to do more overclocking to reach similar results. I have no experience with AMD chips. Take SS up on his advice, and be sure to note your temps and stability often.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:Well, im a bit new to these forums, however, I have visited quite a bit in the past since I do love this emulator. Smile

Alright, I know AMD right now is suckish in the single core perfomance market right now, but that's what I'm on right now.

It's not that AMDs performance is sucky right now. It's that specific microprocessors developed by AMD (mainly bulldozer) have crappy performance. Phenom II is similar in performance to core 2 duo/quad. Which is what they should be compared against. Newer AMD cpus aren't up to snuff with newer Intel cpus in certain areas, that's really the full extent of the problem. Don't think of yourself as an AMD user, think of yourself as a phenom II user.

Sorry if I sounded over the top but I hate it when people generalize like that because it gives new users the idea that we'll all a bunch of braindead Intel fanboys.

Quote:So far, I have an AMD Phenom Thuban X6 (1055T) which is clocked at 3.7GHz currently. I plan on getting it higher because my fans on my WC loop for my CPU loop sucks since they are not running at the speeds they should be (it would be too embarrassing to say how many RPM's....) and hopefully tone down the heat even more so i can crank in a few extra volts. I'm currently running TOS (Tales of Symphonia) with LLE at 100% EVERYWHERE so far (even world map) except during battles with four players (or friendly AI's) at the same time with enemies. Otherwise, its pretty awesome. I was only wondering if you have any suggestions on what clock speed I should try to hit in order to get at least 90% speed in battles because right now it is hitting around 75% to 85% with LLE in bigger battles?

Thank You in Advance!

You're not going to be able to OC high enough to pull that off with anything short of liquid nitrogen. I can promise you that.

[Garteal]

As said before by Shonumi, try out the official 3.0 build.

You can also use the OpenGL backend instead of the DirectX variants.
I haven't extensively tested this yet, but the OpenGL backend gave me a 10FPS speedup from what I've seen.

If you haven't already, enable LLE on Thread.

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

I am using Open GL, ill try 3.0 for you guys too. I plan on trying to squeeze a few MHz out the CPU. Natural Violence, I know that Bulldozer is really the blacksheep, but phenom still kinda sucks compared with Sandy Bridge and especially Ivy Bridge in this matter. Just hoping Piledriver will bring down the power consumption like AMD said (or maybe more, try to optimistic....) and simply bring up the single core performance. Im glad to hear that Steamroller might possibly be on AM3+! I know your not Intel Fanboys Natural Violence, because Up to Date Intel CPU's simply just run Dolphin Better on Dolphin. I may be a Phenom II User, but I will still be an AMD user.Im thankful for your answers, ill go test some things now.

[NaturalViolence]

Piledriver is expected to perform similarly to nehalem in single/dual/triple/quad threaded applications. There is no way in hell that AMD is going to catch up to sandy/ivy bridge in that area for quite some time considering how big the gap is.

[rpglord]

I would say 75% is playble,it's probably sound skipping thats bothering you,right ?
Try disabling idle skipping and enabling vbeam which can be found in the game properties.
That should get rid of sound skipping.

[Shonumi]

Accurate VBeam emulation (in my tests at least) leads to some pretty severe frame drops, although the audio remains perfects. During battles, it'll drop to as low as 30 FPS sometimes. Just be aware of the trade off.