Graphics Card

05-15-2009, 09:20 AM **#11**

(05-15-2009, 08:47 AM)Veeeight Wrote:
(05-15-2009, 07:40 AM)cmccmc Wrote: I looked at some of the Radeon 3's and not all of them support opengl 2.1. Also I prefer nVIDIA because I've never had trouble with them.
Or maybe rather because U've never had any Radeon Well, actually there is no big difference for any game or dolphin between opengl 2.0 and 2.1, if U've found some info that Radeon 3-series supports opengl 2.0 upgrade drivers and then U got full 2.1, most of cheaper nvidias (like 9500gt) got ddr2 memory when almost all radeons got at least ddr3, some got ddr4 and U can even find cheaper models from 4-series with gddr5 ram for less than 100$.
OK, that's exactly what I'm talking about, look at the type of memory this geforce 9500gt from your link got, and dolphin works fine with geforces 6-series that only support opengl 1.5, damn works even with Radeons from old 8-series that supports ogl 1.4, so opengl 2.0 is perfect and there is no difference between 2.0 and 2.1, maybe will be with 3.0 but this in future.

ok first off, my Geforce 6100 supports opengl 2.1. Also your right about the ive never tried radeon thing but I've just heard to many complaints.

05-15-2009, 09:34 AM **#12**

(05-14-2009, 10:34 AM)Glurion Wrote: Brilliant Card I have the same one just mines made by Inno3D, I do have one issue though, sometimes the screen will go blank for a few seconds, then come alive again, i have a feeling this is a problem with my DVI-D cable though (happens rarely, around once every 20 hours, and it always seems to happen when i log into a user account, on XP and win7)

*EDIT* plays all recents games I have GTAIV, Fallout3, Mass Effect, Tom Clancy's HAWX, etc.

In readme files from Fallout3 and TC's HAWX U can find:
Fallout 3 - Supported Video Card Chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, ATI X850 series
Tom Clancy's HAWX - supported graphic cards: NVIDIA GeForce 59xx, ATI Radeon 9800
so it shouldn't be strange or any revelation that gf9500gt can run theese games. I don't know about GTAIV and Mass Effect cause I got only 2 I've mentioned.

(05-15-2009, 09:20 AM)cmccmc Wrote: ok first off, my Geforce 6100 supports opengl 2.1. Also your right about the ive never tried radeon thing but I've just heard to many complaints.

On nvidia website is written that gf6100 supports opengl 2.0. About nvidia U hear only good things Huh

I had both, nvidia & ati, even 3dfx, virge and matrox Tongue

in the past and Ur opinion base only on something such weak as geforce 6100 and something that U've heard from people that spent their money for nvidia and then regret it so they are trying to make themselfes feel better by talking idioces. I had for last few years Radeons 9600, X800GTO, 2600XT, 4870 and Geforce 7800GTX (most stupid idea of mine ever to bought this piece o'sh.t), 9800GT (this was bit better but still weak if compared with ATI cards), and my experiences were much better with ATI. Funniest thing is that even games with stupid logo "nvidia the way it's meant to be played" or something like that works better on Radeon cards.

05-15-2009, 03:36 PM **#13**

(05-15-2009, 09:34 AM)Veeeight Wrote: Funniest thing is that even games with stupid logo "nvidia the way it's meant to be played" or something like that works better on Radeon cards.

yea that's funny Big Grin

Glurion · 05-15-2009, 10:41 PM **#14**

(05-15-2009, 09:34 AM)Veeeight Wrote:
(05-14-2009, 10:34 AM)Glurion Wrote: Brilliant Card I have the same one just mines made by Inno3D, I do have one issue though, sometimes the screen will go blank for a few seconds, then come alive again, i have a feeling this is a problem with my DVI-D cable though (happens rarely, around once every 20 hours, and it always seems to happen when i log into a user account, on XP and win7)

*EDIT* plays all recents games I have GTAIV, Fallout3, Mass Effect, Tom Clancy's HAWX, etc.
In readme files from Fallout3 and TC's HAWX U can find:
Fallout 3 - Supported Video Card Chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, ATI X850 series
Tom Clancy's HAWX - supported graphic cards: NVIDIA GeForce 59xx, ATI Radeon 9800
so it shouldn't be strange or any revelation that gf9500gt can run theese games. I don't know about GTAIV and Mass Effect cause I got only 2 I've mentioned.

Those games were only examples of what the graphics card can play well, and yes 6800 can play fallout3 also but not as well, it might be on the list but doesn't mean it will work as well as the newer models.

As for ATI recommendations i have never had one, but i hear about problems with them, where i never hear about NVIDIA, so i'll stick to NVIDIA Tongue

05-15-2009, 11:06 PM **#15**

Could U give some examples what U've heard is wrong with ATI cards? I bet it was only nvidia's marketing. And don't U think that nvidia cards are way too expensive with so little power compared to ATI?

05-16-2009, 07:13 AM **#16**

(05-15-2009, 10:41 PM)Glurion Wrote:
(05-15-2009, 09:34 AM)Veeeight Wrote:
(05-14-2009, 10:34 AM)Glurion Wrote: Brilliant Card I have the same one just mines made by Inno3D, I do have one issue though, sometimes the screen will go blank for a few seconds, then come alive again, i have a feeling this is a problem with my DVI-D cable though (happens rarely, around once every 20 hours, and it always seems to happen when i log into a user account, on XP and win7)

*EDIT* plays all recents games I have GTAIV, Fallout3, Mass Effect, Tom Clancy's HAWX, etc.
In readme files from Fallout3 and TC's HAWX U can find:
Fallout 3 - Supported Video Card Chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, ATI X850 series
Tom Clancy's HAWX - supported graphic cards: NVIDIA GeForce 59xx, ATI Radeon 9800
so it shouldn't be strange or any revelation that gf9500gt can run theese games. I don't know about GTAIV and Mass Effect cause I got only 2 I've mentioned.

Those games were only examples of what the graphics card can play well, and yes 6800 can play fallout3 also but not as well, it might be on the list but doesn't mean it will work as well as the newer models.

As for ATI recommendations i have never had one, but i hear about problems with them, where i never hear about NVIDIA, so i'll stick to NVIDIA

I agree. Also one complaint about ati cards was when dolphin upgraded to... cg 2.2 BETA??? I think that was it. It wouldn't work at all for ATI cards.

05-16-2009, 08:19 PM **#17**

Dude, half of beta dolphin builds doesn't work at all with nvidia cards and U've found one that wasn't work with ATI and U think U're smart ass. U're getting ridiculous. How about antialias that doesn't work correct, or doesn't worka at all with most of nvidia graphics.

Glurion · 05-16-2009, 08:38 PM **#18**

(05-16-2009, 08:19 PM)Veeeight Wrote: Dude, half of beta dolphin builds doesn't work at all with nvidia cards and U've found one that wasn't work with ATI and U think U're smart ass. U're getting ridiculous. How about antialias that doesn't work correct, or doesn't worka at all with most of nvidia graphics.

Um...I've been using Dolphin since around 1500SVN, all the builds have worked for NVIDIA cards except for the times when something got broke (cards used Geforce 8600GT & 9500GT)

05-16-2009, 08:57 PM **#19**

(05-16-2009, 08:38 PM)Glurion Wrote:
(05-16-2009, 08:19 PM)Veeeight Wrote: Dude, half of beta dolphin builds doesn't work at all with nvidia cards and U've found one that wasn't work with ATI and U think U're smart ass. U're getting ridiculous. How about antialias that doesn't work correct, or doesn't worka at all with most of nvidia graphics.

Um...I've been using Dolphin since around 1500SVN, all the builds have worked for NVIDIA cards except for the times when something got broke (cards used Geforce 8600GT & 9500GT)

This conversation is going on very low level I'm afraid.

death-droid · (This post was last modified: 05-16-2009, 09:05 PM by death-droid.)

(05-16-2009, 07:13 AM)cmccmc Wrote:
(05-15-2009, 10:41 PM)Glurion Wrote:
(05-15-2009, 09:34 AM)Veeeight Wrote:
(05-14-2009, 10:34 AM)Glurion Wrote: Brilliant Card I have the same one just mines made by Inno3D, I do have one issue though, sometimes the screen will go blank for a few seconds, then come alive again, i have a feeling this is a problem with my DVI-D cable though (happens rarely, around once every 20 hours, and it always seems to happen when i log into a user account, on XP and win7)

*EDIT* plays all recents games I have GTAIV, Fallout3, Mass Effect, Tom Clancy's HAWX, etc.
In readme files from Fallout3 and TC's HAWX U can find:
Fallout 3 - Supported Video Card Chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, ATI X850 series
Tom Clancy's HAWX - supported graphic cards: NVIDIA GeForce 59xx, ATI Radeon 9800
so it shouldn't be strange or any revelation that gf9500gt can run theese games. I don't know about GTAIV and Mass Effect cause I got only 2 I've mentioned.

Those games were only examples of what the graphics card can play well, and yes 6800 can play fallout3 also but not as well, it might be on the list but doesn't mean it will work as well as the newer models.

As for ATI recommendations i have never had one, but i hear about problems with them, where i never hear about NVIDIA, so i'll stick to NVIDIA
I agree. Also one complaint about ati cards was when dolphin upgraded to... cg 2.2 BETA??? I think that was it. It wouldn't work at all for ATI cards.

The Cg problem wasn't ATI's fault at all it was Nvidia's Tongue

My ATI card runs Dolphin quite well Smile

The most issues with anything that i had was with a Nvidia.