GDR 8161B rips GameCube but not Wii games

[KomradeNikolai]

I've got a Windows 8.1 PC with a GDR 8161B drive. Since my motherboard only has SATA connections, the drive is connected via an IDE to SATA adapter (this might be a factor--I'm not sure). I've successfully ripped a GameCube game with RawDump 2.1 using the drive.

When I put a Wii disc in the drive, it spins up the disc to a high speed and after a few seconds, spins down again. After a delay of several seconds, it repeats that. It keeps doing that until I eject the disc. If I click on "Start Dump," RawDump becomes unresponsive until I eject the disc. When I do eject the disc, RawDump displays "Wii disc detected" along with the faulty drive message (since now there isn't a disc in the drive).

For GameCube games, I get a similar spinning behavior, but RawDump eventually recognizes the disc.

[KHg8m3r]

This was just talked about (sorta):

(01-01-2015, 06:52 AM)Aleron Ives Wrote: Dumping GC discs takes about 90 minutes with FriiDump, since they're only 1.4GB. Dumping Wii discs takes more like 5 hours, since they're at least 4.7GB for single-layer discs. RawDump is a bit faster, but AFAIK it doesn't work with dual-layer discs, while FriiDump supposedly does. (I don't have any to test with.)

I'd be curious to see documentation on what exactly Nintendo did to make the discs so difficult to read, assuming any such documentation exists. Even the Dreamcast's obscure GD-ROMs can be ripped without needing special drives, although you need a trap disc to fake the TOC, AFAIK.

[KomradeNikolai]

That doesn't really apply. The disc I've tested (Wii Sports, Zelda TP, Wii Play) have all been single layer discs. based on this post, it seems that RawDump may be unable to access the drive for Wii games. The post also gave me the idea to try compatibility mode. I tried XP (both SP 2 and SP 3) as well as Windows 7 and none of those worked. Here's the post so you don't have to follow the link:

(04-09-2011, 10:32 AM)satannuts Wrote:

(04-07-2011, 02:05 PM)RickSummon Wrote: I just purchased an HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8164B0B10 drive on eBay and connected it to my computer with an IDE-to-USB interface.  I confirmed that it can read ordinary DVDs, but it cannot dump any Wii or Gamecube games using Rawdump 2.0 or 2.1.  Even more than that, Rawdump will never run more than once without requiring a reboot.  Attempting to run it again will do nothing, though it will still show up in Task Manager.  I have Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

Update: It seems that Rawdump will run more than once per bootup.  The problem appears to be that simply inserting a Wii disc into the drive will lock out all access to the drive and prevent Rawdump from appearing until the drive is disconnected.  There appears to be no way to stop this from happening.

Friidump cannot read the discs either.  Most of the time, it can't even initialize the DVD drive.  If it can, it always fails to retrieve disc seeds.

I have that exact drive for a few years now.  Rawdump worked perfectly forever on XP and Vista when I used those OSes.  Recently dusted off the gdr8164 for some fresh dumps to use with dolphin, and lo and behold, My Win7 Ult x64 pc won't dump any 'backup' games with Rawdump or Friidump either.  Constantly fails.  I thought it could be the drive finally crapping out, but it works if I use ImgBurn to read some 'backup' games to iso format though.  May try some real games next, and if not, then try XP mode [just in case its a Rawdump on win7 x64 issue.]  May need to get a new drive off ebay, again.

[KHg8m3r]

OK, wasn't sure if you were using dual-layer discs or not, which is why i suggested that.
Do you have an XP computer laying around that you can use? Or grab an XP disc and install on a partition?

[mbc07]

Have you tried with FriiDump? It may work...

[KomradeNikolai]

(01-01-2015, 04:38 PM)Jhonn Wrote: Have you tried with FriiDump? It may work...

I've now tried friidump, RawDump, and Hektograph and all of them get locked up when a Wii disc is inserted. Having a Wii disc in the drive also locks up other programs that are monitoring disc drives such as media players.

I don't have a spare XP computer around, but I may be able to get a hold of a disc and see if that works.

[Aleron Ives]

I tried FriiDump under Windows 7, but it seemed less reliable to me than under XP. It has very poor error handling and simply crashes when it can't read the disc, and I got more crashes under 7 than I did under XP (on a scratched disc). Both FriiDump and RawDump are incredibly picky, though; once they stop working, it takes a reboot to be able to try again. RawDump is better at handling scratched discs than FriiDump, but Wii discs seem more robust than GC discs. FriiDump successfully ripped a Wii disc would have been far too scratched to work had it been a GC disc (in my experience).

[KomradeNikolai]

I wasn't able to get a copy of XP to try, but I did try to use Friidump in Ubuntu and I wasn't able to get that working.

I had wanted to avoid softmodding my Wii, but I ended up doing that and I'm using CleanRip to get my ISOs. If anyone figures out why the Wii discs aren't working in Windows 8 and can fix it I'm still looking for a solution. But for now CleanRip will work just fine.

[AnyOldName3]

If you were really desperate to avoid softmodding, you could have started CleanRip in the way you'd normally have started the HomeBrew Channel installer, e.g. having its file in the root of an SD card while loading the Indiana Pwns save file or whatever. It's just a pain to do that each and every time when you could use the HomeBrew Channel.

[tueidj]

That won't work because cleanrip requires AHBPROT to be disabled (which is handled by the homebrew channel).