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FX 6300? Anyone use this CPU?
07-25-2013, 05:07 AM
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Hmm I don't really know what the equivalent would be, you may have more luck asking one of the admins or people with more experience about that
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07-25-2013, 06:12 AM (This post was last modified: 07-25-2013, 06:14 AM by pauldacheez.)
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From the Wind Waker benchmark, I'd say that that an FX 8350 at 4.52 GHz is about equal to an i5-2500K at 3.3 GHz. (This doesn't factor in GPU differences, but whatever.)
Here's the full results sheet: https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=DA2FE7FDA6EB085E!107&app=Excel&authkey=!ALQ0-tZv6Pc_h84

So, yeah, if you can afford a 2500K, 3570K, or 4670K along with whatever motherboard they require, that'd be much better than the FX 6300.
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07-25-2013, 08:17 AM
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(07-25-2013, 06:12 AM)pauldacheez Wrote: From the Wind Waker benchmark, I'd say that that an FX 8350 at 4.52 GHz is about equal to an i5-2500K at 3.3 GHz. (This doesn't factor in GPU differences, but whatever.)
Here's the full results sheet: https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=DA2FE7FDA6EB085E!107&app=Excel&authkey=!ALQ0-tZv6Pc_h84

So, yeah, if you can afford a 2500K, 3570K, or 4670K along with whatever motherboard they require, that'd be much better than the FX 6300.
Yeah the intel side is probably more ideal, but for the games I',m playing, I think that the FX 6300 will be just fine. I can tweak things as well ~ I'll do the WW Benchmark as soon as the computer is up and running.
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07-25-2013, 08:40 AM
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I'm using an FX-6300 at stock speeds, with 8GB RAM and a 7870. I've only tried two games so far, Smash Bros. Brawl and Melee. Both run 60fps with 4xAA and 16xAF. 9xAA gives some issues, and for some reason, the introduction of brawl drops to about 30/40 but in game is totally fine.
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07-25-2013, 09:02 AM (This post was last modified: 07-25-2013, 11:36 AM by NaturalViolence.)
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nsahawks7 Wrote:I thought since Dolphin is so CPU intensive then it should run fine @ 1680 x 1050. Huh
linker357 Wrote:The CPU plays a really big part in performance but with a few tweaks in the graphics tab you can increase your fps
nsahawks7 Wrote:Ahhh that sounds much better, HD would be nice but if I have to cut some things down I'm fine with that.

IR, AA, AF, etc. have zero impact on cpu load. You will not gain any additional performance by lowering your resolution so long as your gpu is good enough.

nsahawks7 Wrote:I know my graphics card is fine and I have enough ram, just anxious about the processor. Does anyone use it?

Yes other forum users use it. It's slower than a modern i3 and similar to a phenom II X4/X6 in performance.

nsahawks7 Wrote:-Pretty Much ALL Zelda Games on GC and Wii
-All Super Smash Brothers Games
-Dragon Ball Z Tenkaichi 3 for Wii
-Star Fox Assault and Adventure

Star fox adventure will run poorly for sure.

nsahawks7 Wrote:Also, someone said something about OCing. If I get this to say, 4.2Ghz, do you know what the Intel equivalent would be approximately?

Depends on the architecture.

I would say roughly:
Haswell 2GHz
Sandy/Ivy Bridge/Nehalem/Westmere 2.4GHz
Core 2 Quad 3.6GHz


pauldacheez Wrote:From the Wind Waker benchmark, I'd say that that an FX 8350 at 4.52 GHz is about equal to an i5-2500K at 3.3 GHz.

Keep in mind the FX 6300 is going to be significantly slower in dolphin than an FX 8350.

pauldacheez Wrote:(This doesn't factor in GPU differences, but whatever.)

Unless you're using 5+ year old Intel IGP the GPU won't bottleneck WW at 1x IR. WW is very light on the GPU.

Edit: Looks like we did had someone participate in the WW benchmark with that cpu: https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-the-legend-of-zelda-the-wind-waker-cpu-benchmark?pid=283867#pid283867
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07-25-2013, 10:27 AM (This post was last modified: 07-25-2013, 10:29 AM by nsahawks7.)
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(07-25-2013, 08:40 AM)Sato Wrote: I'm using an FX-6300 at stock speeds, with 8GB RAM and a 7870. I've only tried two games so far, Smash Bros. Brawl and Melee. Both run 60fps with 4xAA and 16xAF. 9xAA gives some issues, and for some reason, the introduction of brawl drops to about 30/40 but in game is totally fine.
Finally, someone who actually uses it! Since these two games and Wind Waker are my priority, this makes me feel a ton better. I won't be going 9xAA so I should be fine with that.

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(07-25-2013, 09:02 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:
nsahawks7 Wrote:I thought since Dolphin is so CPU intensive then it should run fine @ 1680 x 1050. Huh
linker357 Wrote:The CPU plays a really big part in performance but with a few tweaks in the graphics tab you can increase your fps
nsahawks7 Wrote:Ahhh that sounds much better, HD would be nice but if I have to cut some things down I'm fine with that.

IR, AA, AF, etc. have zero impact on cpu load. You will not gain any additional performance by lowering your resolution so long as your gpu is good enough.

nsahawks7 Wrote:I know my graphics card is fine and I have enough ram, just anxious about the processor. Does anyone use it?

Yes other forum users use it. It's slower than a modern i3 and similar to a phenom II X4/X6 in performance.

nsahawks7 Wrote:-Pretty Much ALL Zelda Games on GC and Wii
-All Super Smash Brothers Games
-Dragon Ball Z Tenkaichi 3 for Wii
-Star Fox Assault and Adventure

Star fox adventure will run poorly for sure.

nsahawks7 Wrote:Also, someone said something about OCing. If I get this to say, 4.2Ghz, do you know what the Intel equivalent would be approximately?

Depends on the architecture.

I would say roughly:
Haswell 2GHz
Sandy/Ivy Bridge/Nehalem/Westmere 2.4GHz
Core 2 Quad 3.6GHz


pauldacheez Wrote:From the Wind Waker benchmark, I'd say that that an FX 8350 at 4.52 GHz is about equal to an i5-2500K at 3.3 GHz.

Keep in mind the FX 6300 is going to be significantly slower in dolphin than an FX 8350.

pauldacheez Wrote:(This doesn't factor in GPU differences, but whatever.)

Unless you're using 5+ year old Intel IGP the GPU won't bottleneck WW at 1x IR. WW is very light on the GPU.

Edit: Looks like we did have someone participate in the WW benchmark with that cpu: https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-the-legend-of-zelda-the-wind-waker-cpu-benchmark?pid=283867#pid283867

Yeah I heard Adventures is a b!tch on most computers, I won't expect that to run full speed but we will wait and see. I'll try and get as many benchmarks out as possible since I'll be getting my parts tomorrow or Friday.

I wish AMD would work a bit more on single threading I suppose, most programs won't really be multi threaded until about 2017.
Huh. Ah well/
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07-25-2013, 10:36 AM (This post was last modified: 07-25-2013, 10:41 AM by Sato.)
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(07-25-2013, 10:27 AM)nsahawks7 Wrote:
(07-25-2013, 08:40 AM)Sato Wrote: I'm using an FX-6300 at stock speeds, with 8GB RAM and a 7870. I've only tried two games so far, Smash Bros. Brawl and Melee. Both run 60fps with 4xAA and 16xAF. 9xAA gives some issues, and for some reason, the introduction of brawl drops to about 30/40 but in game is totally fine.
Finally, someone who actually uses it! Since these two games and Wind Waker are my priority, this makes me feel a ton better. I won't be going 9xAA so I should be fine with that.

I'm posting my benchmark in a minute, want a link to it when it's up? EDIT: Here it is! https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-the-legend-of-zelda-the-wind-waker-cpu-benchmark?pid=285191#pid285191
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07-25-2013, 10:41 AM
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I dunno if NaturalViolence missed this or thought it wasn't a concern, but, you might have issues running Twilight Princess (mostly in Hyrule Field later in the game) and Skyward Sword (generally a demanding game, IIRC).
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07-25-2013, 10:52 AM (This post was last modified: 07-25-2013, 10:53 AM by nsahawks7.)
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(07-25-2013, 10:41 AM)pauldacheez Wrote: I dunno if NaturalViolence missed this or thought it wasn't a concern, but, you might have issues running Twilight Princess (mostly in Hyrule Field later in the game) and Skyward Sword (generally a demanding game, IIRC).
Yeah, I have TP on Wii so I don't have to worry about that. Skyward Sword is another issue...probably have to cross that bridge when I get there.

(07-25-2013, 10:36 AM)Sato Wrote:
(07-25-2013, 10:27 AM)nsahawks7 Wrote:
(07-25-2013, 08:40 AM)Sato Wrote: I'm using an FX-6300 at stock speeds, with 8GB RAM and a 7870. I've only tried two games so far, Smash Bros. Brawl and Melee. Both run 60fps with 4xAA and 16xAF. 9xAA gives some issues, and for some reason, the introduction of brawl drops to about 30/40 but in game is totally fine.
Finally, someone who actually uses it! Since these two games and Wind Waker are my priority, this makes me feel a ton better. I won't be going 9xAA so I should be fine with that.

I'm posting my benchmark in a minute, want a link to it when it's up? EDIT: Here it is! https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-the-legend-of-zelda-the-wind-waker-cpu-benchmark?pid=285191#pid285191
Thank you! It seems to fine at stock and I can still play around with the settings. Startup is always laggy, but as soon as gameplay begins it usually levels out.

Really excited to try the games out
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07-25-2013, 11:04 AM
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Err...Everyone know that Zelda WW is a light weight game while Zelda SS and Zelda TP are demanding games , right ?
The new AX HLE is demanding . If you don't get full speed all the time , you will have stuttering audio
So if you buy a mid range CPU , you will have to stick with older Dolphin version (like the stable 3.5 , 3.5-145) .
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