FX 6300? Anyone use this CPU?

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

(07-28-2013, 07:38 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

ThorhiantheUltimate Wrote:*Buys a hazardous material trucki company, starts shipping continuous amounts of LN2 to my house, runs a 8350 at 7.5 GHz 24/7* I can play LoZ TP with LLE FULL SPEED!!

Anyways, NV is totally right about the IPC percentage points (IN DOLPHIN).

>Stock pile thousands of AMD motherboards and cpus
>Replace every 15 minutes when they burn out from that overclock
>Reload from drive image to pick up where you left off

ThorhiantheUltimate Wrote:@NaturalViolence: Was the 3770K able to run pretty much almost any game with LLE when OC'ed?

I have never honestly bothered to overclock it. My room gets hot enough as it is. Maybe when I move someplace with a bigger bedroom. I have a few games that it still does not run at fullspeed at stock. MP3, SMG, SMG2, Okami, etc.

Hmmm. From what I understood, when OC'ed that Ivy CPU usually ran pretty much anything with sufficient cooling. It runs SMG at full speed with HLE right (at stock)?

Also, have you considered an H100 from corsair? It takes more energy to raise the temperature of water, therefore allowing you to get some OC headroom right even in your hotter ambient temperature? Or, of course, I could be getting more thermodynamics all screwed up again...

[NaturalViolence]

Depends on the level.

[DatKid20]

That overclock is nothing. The a10 already beat the fx-8120's record.

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

(07-28-2013, 09:56 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: That overclock is nothing. The a10 already beat the fx-8120's record.

Were not talking about records, were talking about running dolphin at full speed and where AMD desktop CPU's need to go to do that (and joking around at the same time).


Amyways, good thing I have Callandor, I can use it to amplify my 1055T and reach 22.4GHz without going over 53 Celsius with my water loop! (Let The WoT jokes fly!)

NsaHawks, have you got the 6300 yet?

[Lorant2]

I have an FX-6300 (non oc, TC enabled) cooled by a CM Hyper TX3+Arctic Cooling F9 PWM fan paired with a HD7850, and I can run MarioKart, New Super Mario Bros Wii and Madagascar 3 at 1680x1050 and 3x internal res. I dont care about AA and AF. These games run fine at 80-100% speed. I would not go for the i5, for gaming get an AMD, for CAD, PhotoShop get intel. Anyway my friend has an i3-2120 and he can run the emu same speed as me but only on 1440x900. Go for the FX-6300!
Oh and make sure you set Turbo Core from Auto to Enabled in your BIOS/UEFI!

[admin89]

Quote:I would not go for the i5, for gaming get an AMD, for CAD, PhotoShop get intel.

I assume that you did not read Dolphin benchmark , FX 8350 @ 4.0GHz and FX 8150 @ 4.6 GHz are still slower than the outdated i5 2500k stock speed . Btw most PC game (include emulator) don't take advantage of using multi-cores/threads -> i5 3570k is much better choice for gaming , much faster too . In fact , Dolphin is a dual core application . Photoshop , CAD , encoding software can take advantage of using multi-cores -> FX 8350 easily beat i5 3570k (8 cores 8 threads vs 4 cores 4 threads)
However , the newest Intel CPU - i5 4670k is realy fast . FX 8350 hardly beat i5 4670k in multi-threaded application (it does but slightly)

Quote:Anyway my friend has an i3-2120 and he can run the emu same speed as me but only on 1440x900. Go for the FX-6300!

Resolution doesn't have anything to do with CPU performance
GPU decide which resolution you can handle
FX 6300 has the same performance as A10 5800k in Dolphin . In this case , i would rather get A10 6800k for Dolphin or wait for AMD Kaveri
Btw , Dolphin uses internal resolution , your native resolution doesn't matter much . My low end GT 540M can handle 2.5IR (1600x1320) without breaking a sweat

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

(07-30-2013, 11:32 PM)admin89 Wrote:

Quote:I would not go for the i5, for gaming get an AMD, for CAD, PhotoShop get intel.

I assume that you did not read Dolphin benchmark , FX 8350 @ 4.0GHz and FX 8150 @ 4.6 GHz are still slower than the outdated i5 2500k stock speed . Btw most PC game (include emulator) don't take advantage of using multi-cores/threads -> i5 3570k is much better choice for gaming , much faster too . In fact , Dolphin is a dual core application . Photoshop , CAD , encoding software can take advantage of using multi-cores -> FX 8350 easily beat i5 3570k (8 cores 8 threads vs 4 cores 4 threads)
However , the newest Intel CPU - i5 4670k is realy fast . FX 8350 hardly beat i5 4670k in multi-threaded application (it does but slightly)

BTW, even if they don't (and btw, games are slowly using more and more cores), most games are bottlenecked by the GFX card, not by the CPU. 6300's and 8320/50 is "good enough" for many games. However, yes, there are some games that you will need the better IPC (im looking at SCII) to get going at 60+ FPS when running intensive parts of said games.

[NaturalViolence]

I think that may have been a typo. Intel is undeniably better for gaming and AMD is undeniably better for CAD and photoshop (at least in the low budget). So it's the exact reverse of what he said. Even games that use 6+ cores run significantly better on an i5 3570K than a FX 8350. The shared FPU and high cache latencies in the bulldozer/piledriver architecture are a big issue for game engines.

[ThorhiantheUltimate]

I will admit that Intel is BETTER (and sorry for no quotes, I'm on my ipad) in gaming, but there is a line that Bulldozer and Piledriver (Especially Piledriver) is "good enough" for gaming. Games that REALLY need the high IPC per core because they don't take advantage of more than 1 or 2 cores (or simply can't) are out there (making it clear i am talking about PC games in this post, not Dolphin). One example would be Starcraft 2. I'm not saying its better in certain cases (if the game somehow used way more cores than games these days, it would be a different story), I'm saying it has the "good enough" performance to run games on high settings, above 60 FPS. Intel currently is better for gaming, but is it worth it in your case (depends on what games you play,nHow much $$ you got, etc)?

[Lorant2]

Okay, I was stupid in that but keep that in mind that here in Hungary price matters, and an i5 is three times expensive than an FX-6300 so I would not go for intel. Anyway that friend of mine has a HD6870 and I have a HD7850.
So here an Ivy i3 and an FX-6300 has the same price, where (in my opinion) AMD is better. i3 is only two real cores 6300 is 3 cores and has higher clock.