Fixing to upgrade

[DatKid20]

(06-17-2014, 02:04 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: We'd be more believing had you chosen an article on a more widely respected site. Unfortunately, they all show the opposite of that, i.e. that Ivy's never faster, and Haswell's sometimes a lot faster. Also, that's in a situation with equal clock speeds, which isn't going to happen, as at stock, Devil's Canyon is clocked higher, and when overclocked it OCs higher.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7003/the-haswell-review-intel-core-i74770k-i54560k-tested/6

The graphs I showed before never had ivy faster either you're blind or you haven't heard of the margin of error.

EDIT: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/56005-intel-core-i7-4770k-22nm-haswell/?page=14
More graphs proving my point.

[admin89]

Those games don't support multiple threads . i5 has the same performance as i7 in the benchmark you provided above and your point is ?
It's true that Haswell is only slightly faster Ivy Bridge in PC gaming and i know that . But hey , not all people build a system only for PC gaming you know
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/837?vs=701
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/836?vs=287
And the whole "PC gaming" thing is completely offtopic since he didn't mention anything like that in the first place . Only you mention about it up till now

@OP Wrote:i will be playing on Dolphin are Legend Of Zelda Wind Waker, Sonic Adventure DX, Mario Kart Double Dash, the Mario Party games, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros Melee and Brawl, Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess, Super Mario Sunshine and WWE Day of Reckoning

Ontopic : i7 4820k is 25% slower than i7 4770k in Dolphin .
i7 4770k @ 4.6GHz can't run Zelda TP - Hyrule Field full speed all the time
i7 4790k is faster than i7 4770k . I guess i should stop here

[AnyOldName3]

(06-17-2014, 02:13 AM)DatKid20 Wrote:

(06-17-2014, 02:04 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: We'd be more believing had you chosen an article on a more widely respected site. Unfortunately, they all show the opposite of that, i.e. that Ivy's never faster, and Haswell's sometimes a lot faster. Also, that's in a situation with equal clock speeds, which isn't going to happen, as at stock, Devil's Canyon is clocked higher, and when overclocked it OCs higher.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7003/the-haswell-review-intel-core-i74770k-i54560k-tested/6

The graphs I showed before never had ivy faster either you're blind or you haven't heard of the margin of error.

EDIT: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/56005-intel-core-i7-4770k-22nm-haswell/?page=14
More graphs proving my point.

You've shown that Haswell's faster clock-for-clock and thread-for-thread than Ivy, although not necessarily by a large margin in many applications the OP hasn't mentioned. We're suggesting he buys something that is cheaper, clocked higher, more overclockable, and with the same number of threads. We're therefore suggesting something empirically faster and better value, and you're showing graphs that back us up to try and argue against us?

[DatKid20]

(06-17-2014, 05:30 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote:

(06-17-2014, 02:13 AM)DatKid20 Wrote:

(06-17-2014, 02:04 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: We'd be more believing had you chosen an article on a more widely respected site. Unfortunately, they all show the opposite of that, i.e. that Ivy's never faster, and Haswell's sometimes a lot faster. Also, that's in a situation with equal clock speeds, which isn't going to happen, as at stock, Devil's Canyon is clocked higher, and when overclocked it OCs higher.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7003/the-haswell-review-intel-core-i74770k-i54560k-tested/6

The graphs I showed before never had ivy faster either you're blind or you haven't heard of the margin of error.

EDIT: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/56005-intel-core-i7-4770k-22nm-haswell/?page=14
More graphs proving my point.

You've shown that Haswell's faster clock-for-clock and thread-for-thread than Ivy, although not necessarily by a large margin in many applications the OP hasn't mentioned. We're suggesting he buys something that is cheaper, clocked higher, more overclockable, and with the same number of threads. We're therefore suggesting something empirically faster and better value, and you're showing graphs that back us up to try and argue against us?

I'm sorry but are you retarded? Have you looked at the graph? It's not upgrade worthy like i said. It backed up what I said not what you said.

[AnyOldName3]

Have you looked at anything? He is trying to buy a new computer. He has the choice of:

An expensive, low clocked, quad core Ivy-E.

A cheaper, higher clocked, more overclockable, quad core Devil's Canyon that would beat the Ivy-E even if it wasn't clocked any higher.

He's mentioned one application only, Dolphin, in which Haswell performs 30% better than Ivy.

Basically, he's got no reason to get the Ivy-E unless he needs to loose a little extra money to get into a lower tax bracket.

[DatKid20]

(06-17-2014, 08:56 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: Have you looked at anything? He is trying to buy a new computer. He has the choice of:

An expensive, low clocked, quad core Ivy-E.

A cheaper, higher clocked, more overclockable, quad core Devil's Canyon that would beat the Ivy-E even if it wasn't clocked any higher.

He's mentioned one application only, Dolphin, in which Haswell performs 30% better than Ivy.

Basically, he's got no reason to get the Ivy-E unless he needs to loose a little extra money to get into a lower tax bracket.

Wrong once again. He's mentioned four applications. Dolphin, PCSX2, VBA-M, and No$gba.

[Anti-Ultimate]

...which all perform better on Haswell.

[AnyOldName3]

Specifically, they're all emulators, and emulators and (according to data you posted) other applications involving compilation get the full 30% speedup.

[DatKid20]

(06-18-2014, 01:33 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: Specifically, they're all emulators, and emulators and (according to data you posted) other applications involving compilation get the full 30% speedup.

Only Emulators do. Everything else had negligible to a 10% boost like Intel said. I don't remember seeing any 30% boost.