Epically epic desktop...(Maybe...)

JaredHedgehog · (This post was last modified: 06-29-2011, 04:06 AM by JaredHedgehog.)

(06-28-2011, 06:54 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: You want the samsung as your PRIMARY drive for speed reasons.

Considering it will only cost you about $65 to upgrade to a P67 + DDR3 1600MHz ram I don't see why you wouldn't do it to be honest.

Hmm... Maybe, but it seems that the main thing with these mobos is the potential of overclocking like a madman, in which, sorry if I forgot to tell you this, I have a fear that the computer would blow up. (not turbo boost)

(Sorry, I'm typing this post and the last via PSP) So the only other reason to get this type of mobo is for the 1.6 ghz ram. IDK what to do. Is there other types of boards that supports the ram?

**NaturalViolence** · (This post was last modified: 06-29-2011, 06:58 AM by NaturalViolence.)

P67 advantages:

-ability to use extremely high frequency ram
-ability to change multipliers and frequencies (overclocking) of the cpu including raising the turbo multiplier past it's default limit
-ability to use multiple video cards in SLI/crossfire
-much better quality hardware (necessary since these are overclocking boards and overclocking boards tend to have high quality parts)
-tend to have a lot more features since they are generally much higher end boards (LED diagnostic lights, removable CMOS chip, much more versatile setup configuration, etc.)
-much better selection of ATX boards (most boards are ATX)

H67 advantages:
-cheaper
-you can use the integrated gpu, with P67 you HAVE to have a video card
-the integrated gpu can be overclocked
-since you can use the integrated gpu this means quicksync is available to you if you choose to use it instead of a video card
-greater selection of microATX boards (most boards are microATX)

Z68
-everything I listed for P67
-SSD caching
-integrated GPU overclocking
-ability to use both the integrated and discrete gpu (video card) at the same time to reduce power consumption and allow quicksync while still having the performance of a video card

Z68 is king out of the three.

H61
Is an even cheaper alternative to H67 that reduces cost by reducing the number of PCI/PCI-e/SATA/USB ports. It does not support integrated GPU overclocking and has even less features than H67 (no quick resume or rapidstorage support and an even simpler bios setup).

If you really need to save the money that bad I'm fine with you getting an H61. My rationale is just "it's barely more money to your overall build, why not get a mobo that will be less restrictive to any future changes you might want to make?". Even if you don't get a P67 or Z68 for the love of god get the samsung spintpoint F3 instead of the WD black edition, you won't be sorry.

Then if you have the money next year upgrade the case and video card and get some high end peripherals (maybe a high end monitor if you don't already have one). Then you'll have a drool worthy build.

JaredHedgehog · (This post was last modified: 06-29-2011, 02:16 PM by JaredHedgehog.)

(06-29-2011, 06:48 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: P67 advantages:

-ability to use extremely high frequency ram
-ability to change multipliers and frequencies (overclocking) of the cpu including raising the turbo multiplier past it's default limit
-ability to use multiple video cards in SLI/crossfire
-much better quality hardware (necessary since these are overclocking boards and overclocking boards tend to have high quality parts)
-tend to have a lot more features since they are generally much higher end boards (LED diagnostic lights, removable CMOS chip, much more versatile setup configuration, etc.)
-much better selection of ATX boards (most boards are ATX)

H67 advantages:
-cheaper
-you can use the integrated gpu, with P67 you HAVE to have a video card
-the integrated gpu can be overclocked
-since you can use the integrated gpu this means quicksync is available to you if you choose to use it instead of a video card
-greater selection of microATX boards (most boards are microATX)

Z68
-everything I listed for P67
-SSD caching
-integrated GPU overclocking
-ability to use both the integrated and discrete gpu (video card) at the same time to reduce power consumption and allow quicksync while still having the performance of a video card

Z68 is king out of the three.

H61
Is an even cheaper alternative to H67 that reduces cost by reducing the number of PCI/PCI-e/SATA/USB ports. It does not support integrated GPU overclocking and has even less features than H67 (no quick resume or rapidstorage support and an even simpler bios setup).

If you really need to save the money that bad I'm fine with you getting an H61. My rationale is just "it's barely more money to your overall build, why not get a mobo that will be less restrictive to any future changes you might want to make?". Even if you don't get a P67 or Z68 for the love of god get the samsung spintpoint F3 instead of the WD black edition, you won't be sorry.

Then if you have the money next year upgrade the case and video card and get some high end peripherals (maybe a high end monitor if you don't already have one). Then you'll have a drool worthy build.

P67 - Gamer's Choice
H67 - Right in the middle
Z68 - Enthusiast PC
H61 - Barebones - Basic Computing

Got it! I found this motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138308&cm_re=h67_motherboard-_-13-138-308-_-Product) - Only added a measly $10... I totally over think these things sometimes and I thought that it was going to be a bit more... And I realized that the Samsung is cheaper...Oh well....I dun goof'd there Tongue

. My new total is now around $630, so I'm good! Big Grin

(06-06-2011, 12:56 PM)JaredHedgehog Wrote: Hello! My name is JaredHedgehog. Some of you might know me from YouTube (Yes...That crap remix of Beat it...) and I met several of you here already.

If you read my sig, the computers I've used with Dolphin (Both of them under the same roof and one of them is mine) are old, and as a result I at first wanted to get a gaming laptop. But then again, there are countless things wrong with those so I decided to do something new. I'm going to learn how to build a computer, and it will be my Dolphin\PCSX2 rig.

Here is what I am shooting for:

Intel Core i5 3.1 GHz Processor(Sandy Bridge, 2nd Gen) - $189.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074&cm_re=core_i5_sandy_bridge-_-19-115-074-_-Product
HIS H675F1GD Radeon HD 6750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity - $104.99/$109.93 w/shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161379
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - $20.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
HEC 7106WW Beige White Steel ATX Desktop Computer Case - $39.99/$49.98 with shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121011
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $64.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model KHX1333C9D3K2/4G - $47.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104155&cm_re=ddr3_ram_4gb_1333-_-20-104-155-_-Product
BIOSTAR TH67B LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard -$79.99/ $84.98 w/shipping - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138308&cm_re=h67_motherboard-_-13-138-308-_-Product
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - $64.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Grand Total = Further Speculation....

Updated!

**NaturalViolence** · (This post was last modified: 07-01-2011, 05:51 AM by NaturalViolence.)

Quote:Got it! I found this motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as..._-Product) - Only added a measly $10...

Ugh, biostar. I'de rather you get a H61 board from a good brand than an H67 board from a not so reputable brand.

Quote:P67 - Enthusiast PC
H67 - HTPC and basic PC
Z68 - Enthusiast PC with some extra features
H61 - Barebones

Fixed that for you.

Here I'll help you decide:
Current top rated LGA1155 board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

Good and cheap (relatively) Z68 board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128500

Good and cheap P67 board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128487

Another decent P67 board that won't break your bank account: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

EXTREMELY cheap H61 board (only 2 pci-e slots, one x16 the other x1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

This was the only decent (in my opinion) low price H67 board I could find: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-131-713&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo

Most of the decent H67 boards cost nearly the same as the good P67 board. I really think you should grab a P67 + DDR3 1600 RAM (I mean really it's only an extra $30-40) if you can, but at least stay the f**k away from biostar.

**ExtremeDude2** · 07-01-2011, 06:33 AM **#55**

(07-01-2011, 05:27 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:
Quote:Got it! I found this motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as..._-Product) - Only added a measly $10...

Ugh, biostar. I'de rather you get a H61 board from a good brand than an H67 board from a not so reputable brand.

if you can, but at least stay the f**k away from biostar.

I knew I should have bought a different board Tongue

JaredHedgehog · 07-01-2011, 08:48 AM **#56**

(07-01-2011, 05:27 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:
Quote:Got it! I found this motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as..._-Product) - Only added a measly $10...

Ugh, biostar. I'de rather you get a H61 board from a good brand than an H67 board from a not so reputable brand.

Quote:P67 - Enthusiast PC
H67 - HTPC and basic PC
Z68 - Enthusiast PC with some extra features
H61 - Barebones

Fixed that for you.

Here I'll help you decide:
Current top rated LGA1155 board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

Good and cheap (relatively) Z68 board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128500

Good and cheap P67 board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128487

Another decent P67 board that won't break your bank account: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

EXTREMELY cheap H61 board (only 2 pci-e slots, one x16 the other x1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

This was the only decent (in my opinion) low price H67 board I could find: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-131-713&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo

Most of the decent H67 boards cost nearly the same as the good P67 board. I really think you should grab a P67 + DDR3 1600 RAM (I mean really it's only an extra $30-40) if you can, but at least stay the f**k away from biostar.

OMG I GOT A FREE COMPUTER CASE! I got it at my uncle's, but he's taking the innards out first. I'll post pictures soon... Smile

Ness · 07-01-2011, 10:49 AM **#57**

If you got it for free from your uncle I'm not exactly sure if everything's going to fit.. at all..

**NaturalViolence** · 07-02-2011, 02:10 AM **#58**

Make sure it's a decent size and ATX/microATX compatible.

By the way: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL070111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL070111-_-EMC-070111-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17371049-L04A

$85 with promo code: EMCKCKJ43

$55 after $30 mail in rebate.

Deal is good until July 4.

~~Duke Nukem~~ · 07-02-2011, 02:14 AM **#59**

(07-01-2011, 10:49 AM)Ness Wrote: If you got it for free from your uncle I'm not exactly sure if everything's going to fit.. at all..

Hopefully it doesn't look like this:

[Image: IBM_pc.jpg]

JaredHedgehog · (This post was last modified: 07-02-2011, 09:42 AM by JaredHedgehog.)

(07-02-2011, 02:14 AM)Gabriel Belmont Wrote:
(07-01-2011, 10:49 AM)Ness Wrote: If you got it for free from your uncle I'm not exactly sure if everything's going to fit.. at all..

Hopefully it doesn't look like this:

lololol no. It's an actual tower. Tongue

(07-02-2011, 02:10 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Make sure it's a decent size and ATX/microATX compatible.

By the way: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL070111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL070111-_-EMC-070111-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17371049-L04A

$85 with promo code: EMCKCKJ43

$55 after $30 mail in rebate.

Deal is good until July 4.

i still have to look at it after my uncle guts it out, so idk right now. I have pictures of the outside, if that helps. It's just that I can't upload because I'm on my bro's phone. (that, and i don't have internet on my desktop and my bro is a jerk about me using his laptop because of time limits and he has 8 HOURS on it, lol.)

EDIT: I'm sorry, but now it seems I can't build a desktop... It's because my parents are now worried that I don't know what I'm doing and with two little siblings running amok in the house, it's a recipe for disaster. For those of you who are looking at this thread for reference, thanks... I don't want to pay $1000 for a pre-built gaming desktop... Now it seems that it is LAPTOP OR BUST. D: