I've been using dolphin from time to time here and there and i have not heard or see this happen to someone, so i got a pretty decent laptop a couple of months back, and it's pretty damn good for running dolphin, almost all if not all games run any 60fps with minor drops if any, said laptop is an hp 8540p, so, i got the laptop, installed dolphin, played for hours, no problem, i had a couple of problems with windows and i had to re install it multiple times, reset my bios, etc, every time i installed it (around 7 times) i proved dolphin, and it worked ... except on 2 occasions were my laptop shut itself off, as i stated before, i could play for hours and nothing happened, but now i couldn't, i re-installed windows 8 and dolphin once again worked no problem, i upgraded to 8.1, and it shut itself off again, i was puzzled as to why this happened, i thought of overheating, but i discarded it since i literally could spend 5 hours playing straight and nothing happened to my laptop before, i investigated a bit and i read that someone had a similar problem, but it was his power supply which wasn't enough, i got a nasty fix for this and it was limiting the processor power to almost 70% (around 2GHZ), games were not that smooth, i could not play anything without having drops and i had to put every high setting i had down, what i really don't understand is why does this happen only with dolphin, i could play bioshock infinite with 100% and my laptop would get around 85 degrees and it wouldn't turn off, i know this temperature isn't good to work with, but its what i get for having hp, they have a good cooling system though, so, the other day i disabled sleep on closing the lid and my laptop was burning inside my backpack, when i pulled it out, it worked, no overheating shut down, i let it freeze and started dolphin with 100% of power, it didn't even get warm, just around 70/65 degrees Celsius and it shut down, this is really unjoyable, i need help with this, i can't really play with anyone else since it may shut down or the lag will be annoying, and once again, my laptop works fine at high temperatures in ANYTHING else other than dolphin after i re-installed windows countless time, it wasn't like this, please i need an answer. Sorry for any grammatical mistakes i may have committed.
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Dolphin shuts down my computer and it isn't quite logical.
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HP laptop running Dolphin and then your laptop shutdown? Overheat dude, overheat. It's pretty common in HP laptops and I experienced that in mine too. Try cleaning Air Vents and replace your thermal compound to fix that...
Also, PC games doesn't stress your CPU like Dolphin does, that's why it doesn't shut down while running PC games. To confirm, you can run an app to monitor temperatures while Dolphin is running, like Realtemp... Quote:its what i get for having hp, they have a good cooling system thoughNo way! HP laptops have the worst cooling systems I ever know. And I'm not talking just by my laptop, a lot of family members also have HP laptops and they run really hot, all of them...
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(12-05-2014, 09:45 AM)Jhonn Wrote: HP laptop running Dolphin and then your laptop shutdown? Overheat dude, overheat. It's pretty common in HP laptops and I experienced that in mine too. Try cleaning Air Vents and replace your thermal compound to fix that... I have ran realtemp, and it shuts down exactly at 86/90 degrees celsius, as i stated before, it cannot be overheating, that on time i left it on inside my backpack i couldn't touch it for long since it was literally burning my hands and it was still working properly, the cooling system *Was* bad, this one stays cool pretty much always, and i live in a tropical country, that's a lot to say. while i do know dolphin does stress the cpu more than anything else, that doesn't explain why i could play normally and now i can't, thanks for your reply. And finally, i have a friend that has an HP envy, that thing is awful, it's powwerful, yeah, but i can cook an egg on the fan, this elitebook is in NO WAY like that.
90 degrees celcius is overheating. But... There are a lot of things that can force a shutdown.
12-05-2014, 01:20 PM
Your vents may have got clogged with dust by time and now your laptop is overheating, causing these issues. And 90° C is very hot, you're only 10 degrees away of the absolute maximum temperature for most Intel CPUs and that's why your laptop is turning off...
Quote:...as i stated before, it cannot be overheatingIf it weren't overheating, it wouldn't be turning off suddenly unless you're having other random HW issue, which given the situation, doesn't seem to be the case... Quote:that on time i left it on inside my backpack i couldn't touch it for long since it was literally burning my hands and it was still working properlyWhen this happened, you probably weren't running anything CPU-heavy, so, although you laptop were pretty hot outside (probably because the vents were blocked and the heat concentrated in the chassis), the temperature inside your CPU weren't that high. But while running Dolphin the thing get worse, the CPU will get pretty hot and because of the crap thermal compound, that heat will not transfer from the CPU to the heatsink as it should, so, outside your laptop will be "warm" but it'll be burning inside, and as failsafe mechanism, it'll shut down to prevent possible damages to the motherboard/CPU. Quote:And finally, i have a friend that has an HP envy, that thing is awful, it's powwerful, yeah, but i can cook an egg on the fan, this elitebook is in NO WAY like that.First, as I said before, many family members have different HP laptops and when I say they have a crappy cooling system, I'm saying in general, not just in the Envy lineup (like the one I own). Second, I also live in a tropical country (Brazil) and temperatures here go crazy, getting around 40° C sometimes. My laptop is a HP Envy and it really could "cook an egg on the fan" when I bought it, I can confirm that, but that was before I replaced its thermal compound with a good aftermarket one. Now I just keep my air vents clean and I can assure you that after replacing the thermal compound it runs colder than my brother's laptop (which is also an HP Elitebook which has never been opened, like yours). For comparison, my uncle also have both a Pavilion and a ProBook that were never opened to replace thermal compound and my Envy also runs colder than their laptops. My Envy laptop still runs at little high temperatures while running Dolphin (around 65-75° C and around 70-80°C in hot days) but at least it doesn't keep shutting down by itself, like it was doing before I replaced TIM and like your laptop apparently is doing now. So, yeah, HP laptops have crappy cooling systems and most of them will shut down when using Dolphin for prolonged periods (especially in Tropical countries), but you can get "tolerable" temperatures from them by replacing thermal compound with a good aftermarket one...
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(12-05-2014, 01:20 PM)Jhonn Wrote: Your vents may have got clogged with dust by time and now your laptop is overheating, causing these issues. And 90° C is very hot, you're only 10 degrees away of the absolute maximum temperature for most Intel CPUs and that's why your laptop is turning off... All that explains quite a lot, thank you very much for your time, if thermal compound will solve the problem, then i have 2 issues, nobody sells it in my country, and how the hell do i get the keyboard off my laptop to dissemble it??? i unscrewed all the keyboard screws and removed the locks and it just won't come out, If your statements are true, then hp must really be saving a lot in cheap thermal paste if it is that bad, 1 more question, i hope i'm not being too annoying asking so much, but would it be worth overclocking the nvidia quadro it has? it's still has a pretty fast data transfer rate and it stills keeps at it with 550mhz, but would it be worth? Thank you for your time, i hope this solves my problem. 12-05-2014, 03:00 PM
Well, I don't know if overclocking your GPU will help. Overclock generally produces more heat and heat is something you need to avoid, so if I were you, I would not overclock it.
About the thermal compound, make sure you get a good one, cheap TIM will probably behave worse than the OEM that HP uses. I applied Prolimatech PK3 in my Envy laptop about an year ago and the temperatures are still pretty stable. Don't forget to keep your air vents free, clean your vents from time to time... About the disassembly procedure, HP generally provides Technical manuals in support website and they generally explain hot to tear down your specific model. Go to HP Support website and search your product ID (generally it's under your battery or in your BIOS info screen, and generally have from 7 to 11 characters -- mine, for example, is C2Y41AV). This will lead you directly to your product support page, and there you generally find technical manual available in docs section. Make sure you've chosen English language, these manuals doesn't seem to be available in other languages...
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