Dolphin or Wii U?

[TuskenRaiderBob]

I recently tried Dolphin with Mario Galaxy and I was impressed with how it looked with the graphics turned up. Does anyone know whether the Wii U upscales the graphics of Wii games as I'm considering buying one. If so, how much by? I can run MG at a high resolution with AA and AF at decent amounts.

[MayImilae]

The Wii U does not upscale wii graphics in any way. Wii games play on it exactly as they would if on a Wii.

[pauldacheez]

The Wii U still renders Wii games at 480p, but since it's over HDMI it's upscaled better than it would be over component/composite. But it certainly doesn't beat running the games in Dolphin with the resolution/AA/AF turned up.

Also note that the game's gonna crash in certain spots unless you're using LLE audio, and using that is gonna slow down the game quite a bit unless you have the ridiculously-commonly-recommended i5 3570K overclocked to at least 4.2 GHz.

[neobrain]

Wii U is dumb user friendly and always works, Dolphin is HD plus tons of features that no one really needs. Chose one :p

[NaturalViolence]

pauldacheez Wrote:The Wii U still renders Wii games at 480p, but since it's over HDMI it's upscaled better than it would be over component/composite.

Wait what? Why would it be upscaled better? Don't HDTVs just convert the analog signal to digital RGB then upscale it?

[Xalphenos]

I'm assuming he means that since HDMI is pure digital with no analog conversion and less chance for signal interference you would end up with a cleaner image being upscaled. Maybe? Though I doubt you would see a huge difference in the real world.

[NaturalViolence]

That I certainly agree with. But he made it sound like the upscaling itself would be better. As if HDTVs use a different algorithm for component input.

[Nerrel]

(02-27-2013, 06:01 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

pauldacheez Wrote:The Wii U still renders Wii games at 480p, but since it's over HDMI it's upscaled better than it would be over component/composite.

Wait what? Why would it be upscaled better? Don't HDTVs just convert the analog signal to digital RGB then upscale it?

Wii U renders the games to 480p and then upscales them to 1080p before outputting them. It's not the best upscaling- it creates some artifacts and looks soft- but it beats the scaling most HDTVs can do by a fair margin. I've noticed a clear improvement in color and overall clarity using the Wii U at 1080p vs. leaving it at 480p and letting the TV do the scaling. The HDMI and upscaling also enable 1:1 pixel mapping on most sets, which can improve the picture over the old Wii a small amount too.

But yeah, nothing along the lines of what dolphin can do.

xalphenos Wrote:I'm assuming he means that since HDMI is pure digital with no analog conversion and less chance for signal interference you would end up with a cleaner image being upscaled. Maybe? Though I doubt you would see a huge difference in the real world.

From what I've read that's a myth. HDMI still requires its own conversion process to transmit a digital signal, so even though it remains digital the whole time it's still being converted in a way that could degrade the signal, though I doubt it's as bad as an analog conversion.

[lamedude]

If you're talking about RGB to YCbCr I would hope consoles aren't doing that for games.

[NaturalViolence]

Yeah that would be incredibly stupid and doesn't make any sense. All consoles that support HDMI should do RGB output by default since the framebuffer itself is RGB.