Dolphin hacked for Intel.

05-11-2009, 01:21 AM #1

I have an Intel single core processor. Some Dolphin users says: "You can play, but will be slow". Others says: "No, you can't play". And others says: "Use the hacked Dolphin for Intel". What I have to do? I don't have money for an upgrade. I need to play SSBB, slow or fast... When somebody say "the game will run slow" he refers to the loading screen? I will lose frames?

Glurion · 05-11-2009, 01:23 AM #2

(05-11-2009, 01:21 AM)Yure16 Wrote: I have an Intel single core processor. Some Dolphin users says: "You can play, but will be slow". Others says: "No, you can't play". And others says: "Use the hacked Dolphin for Intel". What I have to do? I don't have money for an upgrade. I need to play SSBB, slow or fast... When somebody say "the game will run slow" he refers to the loading screen? I will lose frames?

What CPU and what clock speed? if it has hyper threading technology it should be pretty good with Dolphin, as for the "use the hacked Dolphin for Intel" thats only if you have a Intel GMA chipset (GPU)

05-11-2009, 02:09 AM #3

Is a laptop Tongue

Intel Celeron CPU 550 @ 2.00GHz. I don't know what my clock speed (newbie).

**Xtreme2damax** · 05-11-2009, 02:13 AM #4

I believe discussion of the Chinese hacked version of Dolphin for Intel Gpu's isn't allowed, because there is no source code posted/included and thus is in violation of the GPL license that Dolphin is covered by.

Not to mention this version has a lot stripped out and the interface is all in Japanese.

Unfortunately your problem is that your PC just isn't up to the task of running Dolphin, so slow speeds are to be expected. The Chinese hack of Dolphin claims to fix the graphics problems with Intel Gpu's, it might help somewhat but it won't be as good or look as good as playing with a decent ATI or Nvidia Gpu. Wink

05-11-2009, 02:23 AM #5

Uff... I'm relieved. "Slow" means "slow loading screen"? I will lose frames?

**Xtreme2damax** · 05-11-2009, 02:48 AM #6

Yes, the CPU you posted isn't that strong and is a bottleneck for performance. Celerons were the poor mans Pentium 4, not as strong or efficient in complex cpu intensive tasks. Even the Pentium 4 isn't very strong and was outperformed by even a single core Athlon XP.

Now an Athlon XP can't run Dolphin at all (Lacks SSE2), and AMD Athlon 64 is stronger than the Athlon XP yet can only run games in Dolphin at 25% - 40% of full speed. An Athlon 64 x 2 is the dual core version of the Athlon 64, and can achieve 35% - 60% of full speed in most games..

Simply put a Core2Duo or AMD Phenom is required for decent performance in most games, and even those aren't strong enough to run Dolphin at full speed constantly. With my Core2Duo E8500 I still get massive slowdowns in games such as Resident Evil 4, Zelda: WW & TP and some other games.

Unless your Celeron is the newer model based on the Core2 architecture, you don't have a chance of achieving any kind of decent performance in games, I'm not even sure if any 2D games will run acceptably with that processor.

The Celeron is simply just too weak at cpu intensive tasks such as emulation of complex hardware like the PS2 and Gamecube/Wii.

envisaged0ne · 05-11-2009, 03:07 AM #7

A celeron 2.0 won't even be able to play most dreamcast games using NullDC at full speed. Forget messing around with Makaron. I know, I used to a have a celeron 2.1 & had to tweak the emulator quite a bit just to get it to run games at a speed that was acceptable. Some 2D games were ok, but it was pushing it if I wanted to play any 3D games that were pretty graphic intensive (which of course don't compare anything to the GC or PS2).
People in the Dreamcast forums would tell celerson users to upgrade there processors. So you can imagine how poor they will perform for more powerful systems like the GC & PS2.

05-11-2009, 03:12 AM #8

(05-11-2009, 02:48 AM)Xtreme2damax Wrote: Unless your Celeron is the newer model based on the Core2 architecture, you don't have a chance of achieving any kind of decent performance in games, I'm not even sure if any 2D games will run acceptably with that processor.

I run 2D games perfectly. Excuse my english (Brazil...). How to know which my Celeron?

I just want play SSBB, I upgrade my hardware after. Speed is not important to my situation... (despair)

thegamefreak0134 · 05-11-2009, 10:38 AM #9

(05-11-2009, 02:09 AM)Yure16 Wrote: Is a laptop Intel Celeron CPU 550 @ 2.00GHz. I don't know what my clock speed (newbie).

2.00GHz is your clock speed. It's the number of "cycles" the processor can do in one second, in this case around 2 billion. It's a fickle term, since each "instruction" the processor can execute may or may not finish in one cycle, it may finish in two or more, especially if it has to communicate with external hardware which is usually a lot slower.

Clock speed is a good general estimate of the power of a CPU, although it's not a perfect "I'm better than you" rating. Each new model of processor gets a little bit more efficient with some aspect of performance, and will get stronger as a result.

Either way, you're looking at a single core processor that's not running terribly fast. Provided your graphics card doesn't suck (and something about the fact that this is a laptop just *screams* that it will have Intel Express graphics) Dolphin should "run" just fine, although I can't say the speed will be great.

If your video card isn't up to par, you'll have lots of issues with getting games to be playable. Your card needs to fully support a particular version (anyone here know which one? Is it 2.0?) of OpenGL in order for Dolphin to look proper on it. A faster video card helps, but since the bottleneck on your system and on Dolphin in general is the processor, it won't help that much.

I find that with my dual core laptop, which runs both cores at 1.47GHz (slower than yours, but I have two of them) I can run Melee full speed most of the time. Most other games on it are quite slow, so Melee effectively becomes the "hello world" test of Dolphin on a given system, provided you have access to it. I'd start with that if you do, and then work towards other things.

05-11-2009, 10:57 AM **#10**

(05-11-2009, 10:38 AM)thegamefreak0134 Wrote: Your card needs to fully support a particular version (anyone here know which one? Is it 2.0?) of OpenGL

OpenGL 2.1 Smile