Dolphin CPU hierarchy [UNOFFICIAL]

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

Either way, the mention of the Pentium 4 vs the Athlon 64 x2 was that the first post of this topic has them in the same tier and yet even your "quick reference guide" has them in two separate tiers. If you were following my earlier posts in this thread you would know that I felt those two should indeed be in separate tiers.

(11-03-2012, 06:17 AM)Gabriel Belmont Wrote: I'd say that a good Phenom II processor still beats the newer ones that AMD have on the market today at least when it comes to games and emulation.

For games Vishera beats a Phenom. As for Dolphin performance, we don't really know seeing how nobody has really benchmarked any processor with Piledriver cores in Dolphin.

[Starscream]

It's definitely not easy to get everyone to agree on these things. Look at NV's list, his CPU list is much longer than mine and people are still not going to be able to agree where to rank them. Some people are certainly not going to agree with me when I try to break down the CPU list to 4. There's always going to be the "why did you list that one?" or "why didn't you list this one?". It is what it is.

[Duke Nukem]

(11-03-2012, 06:34 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: For games Vishera beats a Phenom. As for Dolphin performance, we don't really know seeing how nobody has really benchmarked any processor with Piledriver cores in Dolphin.

I know that Bulldozer aka Faildozer is worse then a Phenom II when it comes to emulation & gaming.

The 2nd generation might be better, who knows.

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

(11-03-2012, 06:49 AM)Gabriel Belmont Wrote: The 2nd generation might be better, who knows.

Err... MIGHT? It's been out for 2 weeks now.

Oh, and look at this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/medal-of-honor-warfighter-performance-benchmark,3336-7.html

WAT.

[Duke Nukem]

It doesn't matter if it has been out for two weeks, I haven't even heard of Piledriver before I came to this thread so you have to excuse me for the lack of knowledge.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:or a Radeon 6850 when Graphics Core Next is out?

That part you might want to reconsider. It seems the HD 6000 series actually have less issues with dolphin for some reason.

Quote:So the idea is that Piledriver is close to Phenom II performance?

Piledriver is close to phenom II in IPC (performance per clock). The performance of course depends on clock rates, but it does clock higher. Most piledriver based cpus perform above most phenom II cpus.

Quote:I'd say that a good Phenom II processor still beats the newer ones that AMD have on the market today at least when it comes to games and emulation.

It depends on the game, in some cases you're right.

Quote:Either way, the mention of the Pentium 4 vs the Athlon 64 x2 was that the first post of this topic has them in the same tier and yet even your "quick reference guide" has them in two separate tiers. If you were following my earlier posts in this thread you would know that I felt those two should indeed be in separate tiers.

We've talked about this already. I thought I explained my point of view quite thoroughly:

(10-12-2012, 01:00 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote:My main beef is having something like an Athlon 64 x2 in the same category as a Pentium 4.

I mentioned my reasoning for this a couple of times:

NaturalViolence Wrote:They're both too slow for most games. Therefore they both belong in the slow category.

How would I describe a user experience above

NaturalViolence Wrote:Even with heavy overclocking these cpus are simply too slow for most games.

But below:

NaturalViolence Wrote:These cpus run most games at fullspeed with HLE audio if they are heavily overclocked. But at stock speeds they may have have trouble.

There is a grey area inbetween the two, sure, but I can't draw a line in the sand anywhere in the middle so I really have no way to further separate them into User experience tiers.

Quote:The 2nd generation might be better, who knows.

Who knows? You do realize that we've benchmarked both of them right?

[Duke Nukem]

(11-03-2012, 07:04 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Who knows? You do realize that we've benchmarked both of them right?

Actually not, I have been away for quite some time and haven't had a chance going through everything yet.

[NaturalViolence]

Well then you've got some catching up to do. They came out a few weeks ago.

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

Technically Piledriver has been out since summer in the form of the Trinity APU. Piledriver by definition is the architecture used in the CPU cores, not the overall processor design. It's Vishera that came out just two weeks ago.

[Duke Nukem]

Yeah I actually have some catching up to do. Feels like I have been in a coma or something.