Dolphin and nVidia's Shadowplay?

[delroth]

(11-27-2013, 09:46 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

moosehunter Wrote:Dolphin is a PC game.

What?

It acts very much like one. In a lot of aspects it could be categorized as a PC game, especially if you mostly consider technical aspects and use of graphics APIs (which is the important part for a technology like NVIDIA's).

[Shonumi]

It's an emulator though, it's going to act like whatever the input data tells it to act like, be it a game, a simple calculator app, or a music player. Understanding what emulators are and how they work, I wouldn't classify Dolphin itself as any of those software categories though. I think the point moosehunter was trying to make was what delroth explained, e.g. Dolphin acts enough like a PC game in certain regards as far as ShadowPlay is concerned.

[moosehunter]

(11-28-2013, 01:29 AM)Shonumi Wrote: I think the point moosehunter was trying to make was what delroth explained, e.g. Dolphin acts enough like a PC game in certain regards as far as ShadowPlay is concerned.

Yeah, that's it. I just didn't explain myself well.

[NaturalViolence]

I'm just overly strict about the use of categorization and terminology (as I'm sure you all already know). Thus I wanted clarification. I do not consider dolphin a PC game even if it is technically similar in many regards because its intended purpose is different. And that's what defines an application as being a game, it's intended use. Plus I believe there are also enough technical differences as well to place it in its own category. I did suspect that moose was just talking about how shadowplay behaves with it though. So I wanted to give him a chance to elaborate or correct his statement before making a long drawn out explanation. Which he did.

Quite frankly on a technical level I think the use of a JIT dynarec automatically disqualifies any emulator from being considered a PC game.

DJBarry was probably referring to TAS and just got confused. Don't be so hard on him delroth. He's still learning and he doesn't get confrontational when people correct him after he gives an incorrect answer.

[delroth]

(11-28-2013, 11:20 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: DJBarry was probably referring to TAS and just got confused. Don't be so hard on him delroth. He's still learning and he doesn't get confrontational when people correct him after he gives an incorrect answer.

You don't learn by making wrong affirmations on support forums and having people correct you over and over - that's just being obnoxious. I'll let you find examples in his posting history, but if I actually notice it even though I read only 10% of the support forum...

[DJBarry004]

(If I still have the right to at least open my mouth).


I would like to second what NV said. How am I going to know the truth if I don´t even express what I have in mind?

I am aware that sometimes I only write sh*t (in almost all of my replies?) but if I don´t talk, I´ll never know which ideas to change... and what things I can learn from all of you.

Now I´ve got to leave. Continue with the ShadowPlay if you´d like, act like if I wasn´t even here in the forums...

[NaturalViolence]

delroth Wrote:You don't learn by making wrong affirmations on support forums and having people correct you over and over - that's just being obnoxious.

While this certainly isn't the optimal way to learn it happens all the time and certainly does teach them things. Although I will agree that it's extremely annoying for the people that have to do the correcting and can be damaging to others if it goes uncorrected. It does work though.....

This is very similar to the method employed by peer reviewed science. Of course when they correct each other it's done in a very thorough and professional manner. As opposed to typical internet arguments. So it's not like this is unheard of in the professional world. Although it can be just as annoying there as well.

Normally I attack people who make these kinds of mistakes because they act like assholes when somebody corrects them. But this guy has at least been respectful every time so I'm more inclined to just tell him why what he said was wrong and be on my way. As opposed to making vague threats towards him. And then maybe just tell him to do more research next time.

A lot of people consistently post incorrect statements. Not just him. Especially in the early days of this forum. And especially in the support section. Granted his frequency is higher than most. Most mods/admids generally ignore it unless they're rude because it's not against the forum rules and it would be kind of ridiculous to punish someone just for being wrong a lot.

If you look deeper into his post history you will also see that a lot of the things he was corrected on earlier he now corrects other people on. So he is learning. You're right that he should do more research on things before posting though. Or consider not posting at all. Though I think in this case he genuinely thought he knew the correct answer based on what he had previously read about TAS, he wasn't just making it up because he wanted to answer.

@DJBarry004

Delroth is right that you should be doing more research before posting things. At least a quick google search. This would have massively reduced the number of incorrect statements that you've posted in the past. And that's the main reason that delroth is annoyed with you right now. If you're not completely sure about something try and verify it with a source before you post about it. I think if you just did that it would make everyone happier, including you.

[Sannakji]

... so.... yes? No? Is there a more stable way to do this yet?

[NaturalViolence]

No. There is not.

[DJBarry004]

Thanks for the reflection, NV. Will consider your advices for my next replies... or at least I think so.