Does Dolphin emulator need more multicore CPU perfomance than sin

[wiiaryapradana]

Does Dolphin need more multicore CPU perfomance than single core?

I'am really confuse to choose Ryzen 5 1600x who's good at multicore perfomance or Intel i5 7600 who's better at single core performance

[AnyOldName3]

Dolphin really likes single threaded performance, as most of the work it does can only be split between two threads. As well as that, it runs better on modern Intel chips than might be expected if you were to compare benchmarks of other software. If all you care about is Dolphin performance, then the i5 is probably the better choice. If you have other things you care about, then the 1600X is by no means a bad chip, and should be more than fast enough to run the majority of games at full speed.

[mstreurman]

(04-30-2017, 08:24 PM)wiiaryapradana Wrote: Does Dolphin need more multicore CPU perfomance than single core?

I'am really confuse to choose Ryzen 5 1600x who's good at multicore perfomance or Intel i5 7600 who's better at single core performance  

Check this list I created a few days ago for another thread, needless to say all of these CPU's should run anything you throw at it quite well and my next build will be a Ryzen 1600 (maybe an X but the only difference is that its base clock is higher which I should be able to overclock I hope). The only thing that is holding me back is that I am looking/waiting for a feature rich miniITX AM4 mainboard that has WiFi, Bluetooth and 7.1 surround sound on board:

Intel Pentium G4600
Geekbench 4 64-bit Windows 10 pro: STP:4036 (MTP:7657)
Intel Core i7 4800mq (added since this is my personal laptop that basically runs every game I throw at it as I have yet to experience a game that has slowdowns)
Geekbench 4 64-bit Windows 10 pro: STP:4091 (MTP:11641)
AMD Ryzen 5 1600x
Geekbench 4 64-bit Windows 10 pro: STP:4196 (MTP:17804)
AMD Ryzen 7 1800x
Geekbench 4 64-bit Windows 10 pro: STP:4738 (MTP:26418)
Intel Core i3 7350k
Geekbench 4 64-bit Windows 10 pro: STP:4775 (MTP:9197)
Intel Core i5 7600k
Geekbench 4 64-bit Windows 10 pro: STP:5459 (MTP:14708)
Intel Core i7 7700k
Geekbench 4 64-bit Windows 10 pro: STP:5853 (MTP:20076)

[Helios]

Ryzen works fine for Dolphin assuming your clock speed is being ramped up correctly, your memory speed is detected properly, and you keep your OS up to date.

[linkdude64]

(04-30-2017, 08:24 PM)wiiaryapradana Wrote: Does Dolphin need more multicore CPU perfomance than single core?

I'am really confuse to choose Ryzen 5 1600x who's good at multicore perfomance or Intel i5 7600 who's better at single core performance  

GeoTech Land is a youtube channel that has many videos playing titles in CEMU, Dolphin, RPCS3, etc. on a Ryzen 1500X in dolphin. He also has an RX 580, so many of his videos feature Vulkan backend as well. Based on my desire to support competition, but also emulate, I'm building a computer with a 1600X, which will have slightly faster base clock speeds, meaning it will be even smoother. Keep in mind with these videos he is also recording at the same time, which puts extra load on the computer, and the performance is still pretty much flawless.

[SpaceDandy]

(05-03-2017, 02:09 AM)Helios Wrote: Ryzen works fine for Dolphin assuming your clock speed is being ramped up correctly, your memory speed is detected properly, and you keep your OS up to date.

I have been keeping an eye on threads in this forum just to learn some and have to ask,  what does your OS have to do with dolphin performance?

I mean I can see that ram speed for ryzen is of importance due to how the infinity fabric works and that an decent OC is a probably a good idea as ryzen clocks are simply lower than intel if you want to stay in the same ballpark but OS?

[AnyOldName3]

I'm pretty sure once Ryzen was released, OSes tended to receive updates which made them more compatible, such as tweaking their scheduler so that it produced better results with AMD's SMT implementation, for example. Without this kind of tweak, the OS can prevent applications making full use of brand new hardware that didn't exist when the OS released.

[SpaceDandy]

(11-23-2017, 11:02 PM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: I'm pretty sure once Ryzen was released, OSes tended to receive updates which made them more compatible, such as tweaking their scheduler so that it produced better results with AMD's SMT implementation, for example. Without this kind of tweak, the OS can prevent applications making full use of brand new hardware that didn't exist when the OS released.

Sounds like your talking about windows 10 problems which seem to be really only windows 10 problems.  The way it was written it gave me the idea that different OS might be better with dolphin. 

Imo OS updates are not going to be a huge factor...hell many of us are still on w7 and have no issues and yes even on ryzen and kabylake etc.

The usb3 drivers (which you can get from most motherboard websites) can be streamlined into a w7 install and you can then do updates via simplix or use the patch to get rid of the pesky hardware checks that MS use to artificially block w7 to try and force people on w10. 

[MayImilae]

I think having to hack around driver issues and windows update blocks count as issues! It's harderly painless.

[SpaceDandy]

(11-24-2017, 06:44 AM)MayImilae Wrote: I think having to hack around driver issues and windows update blocks count as issues! It's harderly painless.

It's not hacks, and streamlining a windows install is not that hard, you're just adding the drivers that are missing in this case. As for the patch you run it once then use the windows update like normal, not complicated or painful ;P

Anyways not trying to start going off topic but the point is I highly doubt OS updates are a super huge factor when talking about if dolphin will run fine xyz build.  Also I think for ryzen the only "updates" worth noting were perhaps BIOS updates for the motherboards themselves.

Only commented on the "keep OS up to date" as it not something that is usually mentioned in such threads unlike say keeping your gpu drivers up to date are and my initial reaction was hmm "wat does the OS have a big impact on running dolphin" ?