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BSOD after double pressing ESC button
05-02-2019, 08:00 PM
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What (I think) causes it to appear on my PC:
1. While playing a game in fullscreen mode I press Esc and then the dialog came up, but I don't see it, I need to alt-tab to it to actually press Yes or No.
2. If I press Yes then the emulation would stop and all is good.
3. But God forbid if I press Esc twice before stopping the emulation. It that case the dialog shows up again when nothing is running. And after pressing Yes I get BSOD.

I recreated it twice to be sure it's not just my hardware. The second time it triggered was a few seconds later, but triggered nontheless. The error was something about MEMORY in both cases.
My PC is running 24\7 so I would notice some instability if I had one.
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05-02-2019, 08:47 PM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2019, 08:47 PM by JMC47.)
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I don't think Dolphin itself can cause a BSOD directly... but it's possible some driver that Dolphin interacts with could. For what it's worth I tried to reproduce this and got nothing.
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05-02-2019, 09:04 PM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2019, 09:23 PM by mstreurman.)
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(05-02-2019, 08:00 PM)Emogop Wrote: What (I think) causes it to appear on my PC:
1. While playing a game in fullscreen mode I press Esc and then the dialog came up, but I don't see it, I need to alt-tab to it to actually press Yes or No.
2. If I press Yes then the emulation would stop and all is good.
3. But God forbid if I press Esc twice before stopping the emulation. It that case the dialog shows up again when nothing is running. And after pressing Yes I get BSOD.

I recreated it twice to be sure it's not just my hardware. The second time it triggered was a few seconds later, but triggered nontheless. The error was something about MEMORY in both cases.
My PC is running 24\7 so I would notice some instability if I had one.

First of all: You are now noticing an instability!

If the BSOD is about memory, set all your overclocks back to default/auto, and test.
Still issues? Run a 24h memtest and also do a full checkdisk of all your drives. Post the results (screenshot) here.
If that doesn't come up with any errors update all of your drivers and make sure to use the latest version of windows 10 and the latest dev-version of dolphin with the settings returned to defaults/portable mode.

As Dolphin is waaaaaaaaaaay more heavy on some components of your computer than others, and it uses your computer differently from lets say 3D-rendering, Video editing and/or native PC-gaming, thus it will trigger different instabilities in your system. My computer also runs 24/7, I used to have an "unstable" overclock on it and it didn't trigger ever... until I actually started using RPCS3 and emulating a PS3, only then there came some strange BSOD's. In my case it got resolved by adding 0.05v to the v-core of my CPU, but mileage may vary.

Finally, do keep in mind that your CPU is a decade (10 years) old this year, so it might actually be on its way out which is causing instabilities that weren't there before... there is no way to tell.
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05-03-2019, 12:34 AM
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Here are error codes
0x0000003B
and
0x000000c2

(05-02-2019, 09:04 PM)mstreurman Wrote: First of all: You are now noticing an instability!

If the BSOD is about memory, set all your overclocks back to default/auto, and test.
Still issues? Run a 24h memtest and also do a full checkdisk of all your drives. Post the results (screenshot) here.
If that doesn't come up with any errors update all of your drivers and make sure to use the latest version of windows 10 and the latest dev-version of dolphin with the settings returned to defaults/portable mode.

As Dolphin is waaaaaaaaaaay more heavy on some components of your computer than others, and it uses your computer differently from lets say 3D-rendering, Video editing and/or native PC-gaming, thus it will trigger different instabilities in your system. My computer also runs 24/7, I used to have an "unstable" overclock on it and it didn't trigger ever... until I actually started using RPCS3 and emulating a PS3, only then there came some strange BSOD's. In my case it got resolved by adding 0.05v to the v-core of my CPU, but mileage may vary.

Finally, do keep in mind that your CPU is a decade (10 years) old this year, so it might actually be on its way out which is causing instabilities that weren't there before... there is no way to tell.

I do have my CPU and RAM OC'd... but I really doubt they have anything to do with it.
What are the chances of having two BSODs in a row in the exact same situation?
Yeah the Windows I got (Win 8.1 Lite with some functions disabled) maybe has something to do with it. But again, no problem until I decided to try Skyward Sword out with normal controls.
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05-03-2019, 01:00 AM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2019, 01:02 AM by mstreurman.)
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(05-03-2019, 12:34 AM)Emogop Wrote: Here are error codes
0x0000003B
and
0x000000c2


I do have my CPU and RAM OC'd... but I really doubt they have anything to do with it.
What are the chances of having two BSODs in a row in the exact same situation?
Yeah the Windows I got (Win 8.1 Lite with some functions disabled) maybe has something to do with it. But again, no problem until I decided to try Skyward Sword out with normal controls.

error code: 0x0000003B = (SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION) and is usually caused by corrupted or outdated drivers
error code: 0x000000C2 = (BAD POOL CALLER) and is usually caused by corrupt memory or the installation of new hardware.

so, before you do anything else, please reset your BIOS to default settings (so no more overclocking) and check if you can reproduce the error, if you are unable to do so, your system and thus overclock is unstable. Otherwise you might have a corrupted installation of drivers or even a completely corrupt Windows.
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05-22-2019, 04:02 AM
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I think I know what was causing BSOD on my system while running a game on Dolphin.
And it wasn't overcklocking which did it. It was... Vulkan. Switching the renderer to OpenGL seems to solved the issue. Moreover I got performance boost because of that. In Zelda SS at the start menu with the hub area spinning around I used to got strange hiccups, though uncapped FPS was high enough and without dipping to higher 20s.
Prior to changing the renderer I had updated my driver from 419 to the latest 430 but to no avail.
It's also strange because other apps using Vulkan such as rpcs3 and DOOM work fine.
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