Any Linux users' comment on this?

**KHRZ** · (This post was last modified: 08-03-2012, 05:34 AM by KHRZ.)

So the good guys at Valve are making Steam available on Linux, and in porting over the Source engine they have the following comments:
http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/
"... it involves working with hardware manufacturers to identify issues in their drivers and, as a result, improving the public driver which benefits all games."

So have any Dolphin users noticed improved Dolphin performance on Linux lately? Also interestingly, they say their performance on Linux with OpenGL is faster than Windows with DirectX.

RDilus · 08-03-2012, 06:00 AM #2

(08-03-2012, 05:34 AM)KHRZ Wrote: So the good guys at Valve are making Steam available on Linux, and in porting over the Source engine they have the following comments:
http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/
"... it involves working with hardware manufacturers to identify issues in their drivers and, as a result, improving the public driver which benefits all games."

So have any Dolphin users noticed improved Dolphin performance on Linux lately? Also interestingly, they say their performance on Linux with OpenGL is faster than Windows with DirectX.

why that monster rig lol...

***Shonumi*** · 08-03-2012, 06:32 AM #3

I haven't upgraded my 64-bit drivers since January, but I just installed 32-bit Slackware last Saturday with the latest Nvidia driver. Haven't played Dolphin yet, but PCSX2 runs great as far as I can tell. I really didn't have performance issues before Valve started porting Steam to Linux, though I am glad they're taking Linux seriously as a platform.

Not related, but has anyone seen Richard Stallman's latest comments about Steam and DRM? Personally, I respect RMS, but I think real freedom allows for users to choose to have proprietary software if they want to. Maybe I'll get into Steam when it comes out, still dunno about it.

**NaturalViolence** · 08-03-2012, 07:29 AM #4

Stallman has never been anything but a complete lunatic. He seems to basically disagree with the entire idea of capitalism.

RDilus · 08-03-2012, 07:31 AM #5

(08-03-2012, 07:29 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Stallman has never been anything but a complete lunatic. He seems to basically disagree with the entire idea of capitalism.

lol really ?

***Shonumi*** · (This post was last modified: 08-03-2012, 04:01 PM by Shonumi.)

I respect Stallman because there are a lot of principles in free software that I agree with. I think it's wonderful that source code can easily proliferate between developers, users, and communities, and it's not like I take these freedoms for granted either. Dolphin, PCSX2, and a host of other emulators have come a long way as open-source projects, and it's great that I can hack them (as I do on occassion) whenever I get the feeling. Plus, I respect any American who bothers to learn a language or two besides English. :p

However, there are also a few points where, yes, he does seem to be a crazy, bearded old man. The whole naming controversy of "GNU/Linux" irks me, and as I said before, people should have the freedom to "lose" their freedoms by choosing proprietary software. It's great to have a cause and believe in it, but you get a lot more converts with thoughtful evangelism than pure zealotry. "Free Software or Else" isn't very endearing of freedom itself.

RDilus · 08-03-2012, 04:47 PM #7

(08-03-2012, 03:55 PM)Shonumi Wrote: I respect Stallman because there are a lot of principles in free software that I agree with. I think it's wonderful that source code can easily proliferate between developers, users, and communities, and it's not like I take these freedoms for granted either. Dolphin, PCSX2, and a host of other emulators have come a long way as open-source projects, and it's great that I can hack them (as I do on occassion) whenever I get the feeling. Plus, I respect any American who bothers to learn a language or two besides English. :p

However, there are also a few points where, yes, he does seem to be a crazy, bearded old man. The whole naming controversy of "GNU/Linux" irks me, and as I said before, people should have the freedom to "lose" their freedoms by choosing proprietary software. It's great to have a cause and believe in it, but you get a lot more converts with thoughtful evangelism than pure zealotry. "Free Software or Else" isn't very endearing of freedom itself.

nice said i agree with that the vaule workers have alot of freedom i heard.
also in game making if they just want to they can make one.
if they don't then it's ok.
also they have no deadline of releasing a game so they can work 10 years on a single game.
and we all know vaule have one of the best game everytime again.
HL2 Portal and L4D ofcrouse TF2 all great games and really fun.

**KHRZ** · (This post was last modified: 08-04-2012, 12:32 AM by KHRZ.)

Nothing wrong with capitalism, untill free products emerge, and old monopolies tries to kill them of to save their own profits.
(I'd call this the corrupted form, where people try to argue that profits matter, while actual creation of value doesn't)

**NaturalViolence** · (This post was last modified: 08-04-2012, 01:18 AM by NaturalViolence.)

Quote:However, there are also a few points where, yes, he does seem to be a crazy, bearded old man.

He literally wore tin foil over his ID at a Q&A to protest RF ID badges. He's that crazy.

Have you seen this guy talk? He even SOUNDS crazy.

Like I said. He must have lost touch with reality a long time ago.

Quote:nice said i agree with that the vaule workers have alot of freedom i heard.
also in game making if they just want to they can make one.
if they don't then it's ok.
also they have no deadline of releasing a game so they can work 10 years on a single game.
and we all know vaule have one of the best game everytime again.
HL2 Portal and L4D ofcrouse TF2 all great games and really fun.

I don't understand what this has to do with opensource software (actually I barely understand this blob of words at all).

It seems like you were talking about independent game development somewhere in there.

Quote:Nothing wrong with capitalism, untill free products emerge, and old monopolies tries to kill them of to save their own profits.
(I'd call this the corrupted form, where people try to argue that profits matter, while actual creation of value doesn't)

Stallman seems to think that there is no place for closed source software. That all programs should be opensource. If that were the case then most software developers would be out of a job because for most software products going opensource is practically the same as handing the product to the customer for free.

***Shonumi*** · 08-04-2012, 01:22 AM **#10**

Quote:He literally wore tin foil over his ID at a Q&A to protest RF ID badges. He's that crazy.

Have you seen this guy talk? He even SOUNDS crazy.

Like I said. He must have lost touch with reality a long time ago.

Yes, I've seen him talk (though his voice never did match the scruffy one I had in my head for him) and I have read a few of his pieces. Like I said, there are some things I agree with, chiefly about the benefits of copyleft licensing and open-source software ("free software" in RMS lexicon), but I don't agree with some of his extremist stances. Some people are what I would consider "characters", RMS is one of them. He's got some good views, but not all of them are spot on.