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AMD A10-7850K or 7700K?
04-01-2014, 01:57 PM
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There's a far better Rosewill power supply that isn't $95, the Capstone series. I have one, truly amazing budget PSUs. Somehow, it's a budget PSU that has gold certification AND is trusted for overclocking by people who actually know what they're doing. I'd recommend getting a Rosewill Capstone power supply, really. Oh, you also don't need too much power. Before discreet GPU, that system might need at least a 320 (Antec Green 320D, anyone?), though, I'd recommend getting a 450. (psst, I have the 450w capstone, it's pretty good, and the 450 isn't as expensive as that bronze 520 unit you have lined up)

I'd also recommend changing that RAM. 1x8 might be less expensive than 2x4, but it's a bunch slower. I'd recommend getting a 3x2 set (for 6GB, which is just fine, and definitely enough for a build like that). It's less expensive than getting a 1x8 "set".

I think that you can go a little cheaper on the motherboard at the MiniITX standard, but I'm not exactly sure on Intel's side of things. Hell, for all I know, you might not even have cheaper available over there (I heard that the government doesn't like people who pay for internet, and also eats babies, from some guy I know who lives in new zealand and has never been to the country of australia. He might have been talking about the new zealand government, though).

But, really, don't get that power supply, it's too expensive considering that there's a superior 80+ Gold solution that costs less and is praised by everyone. I just have no idea if it's even available in Australia, since it's by Rosewill, Newegg's house brand. Newegg is North American, and I don't think they have any establishment in Australia, so it might end up costing a little bit more, now that I think about it.
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04-01-2014, 02:52 PM
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Other than what kinkinkijkin said, that build looks pretty decent. You may want to throw in a dedicated graphics card down the road, so keep an eye out for deals
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04-01-2014, 10:56 PM (This post was last modified: 04-02-2014, 12:52 AM by skanob.)
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Unfortunately, those are not available here in Australia. It is much more expensive here, price in US then add $50-$100 per piece. Bummer.

Thanks for all the help guys.. I think I've already decided what to get (until prices aren't changed). I made a some few changes that are just less than $50 difference. Note that these are Australian prices. Here it is:

Budget PC:
Quote:PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($135.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85N Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $546.00

I opted for the mobo because it has an additional PCI-E slot, anytime that I would need to add a WiFi+Bluetooth adapter for it. its a mid-range chipset out of current available ones.
The memory so that I can still add another 8gb to maximise the mobo's capacity. Unfortunately, the mobo only has 2 dimm slots.
The casing should be enough, I can still add an optical drive anytime.
And also, I could add a regular size GPU.
The power supply, as it's the cheapest 80+Gold that is available here in AUS. Sad
Being in 550W makes it a bit of future-proof anytime that I would be adding a GPU.



I made another list, an in-between of budget and future-proof (2-3 years, add more if adding a GPU), I might aim for this one if I will not buy anytime soon:
Quote:PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($135.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $646.00

A mid-range, quad cpu.
Mobo, WiFi+Bluetooth already built-in.
Same for the RAM.
Same for the Power Supply.



Here's an Overclockable one:
Quote:PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($269.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($155.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $726.00

A mid-range, overclockable quad cpu. but OC on an ITX might not be a good idea (heat).
Mobo, WiFi+Bluetooth already built-in.
Same for the RAM.
Same for the Power Supply.

My aim, is not really mainly for Dolphin only. It is to play games/emulators(PCSX2) in decent graphics and fps. I'm not really one of them "graphics-junky" players. I'm more of a, "60fps? Awesome! (decent graphics of course)". Either PC build should and may act as an HTPC (purpose of the ITX mobo). I'm gonna be worrying about the gpu, up until the time its time to get one. These might change, depending on the haswell refresh in a months time.

Right, should I post this on a separate thread, it might be helpful to others. Or should I just leave this here..?

So, what do you guys think of this build?

Quote:To see the equivalent price in the us, click on the main PCpartList link and remove the "au." in the beginning of the link.

Edit:
Corrected 2nd build and added OCable one.
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04-01-2014, 11:27 PM
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H87 mobo does not support overclocking . So there is no point in buying i5 4670k
Only Z87 mobo supports that . I recommend MSI Z87 G45
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04-01-2014, 11:36 PM (This post was last modified: 04-01-2014, 11:47 PM by skanob.)
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(04-01-2014, 11:27 PM)admin89 Wrote: H87 mobo does not support overclocking . So there is no point in buying i5 4670k
Only Z87 mobo supports that . I recommend MSI Z87 G45

yeah. noticed that now. forgot that it's only z87 that is overclockable, i'll edit the post. 2 mins. thanks.

Looking at it now.. The second build seems to be the most practical one out of the 3.. Being an OCable for the 3rd build, it adds 1 or 2 years more for its "futureproof"ness. But OC on an ITX might not be a good idea because of heat, unless changing the cpu cooler for a better, means add $50-$100 more to the total.

what do you guys think?
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04-02-2014, 01:26 AM (This post was last modified: 04-02-2014, 01:40 AM by KHg8m3r.)
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Why such a small hard drive? A hybrid isn't that much more expensive.
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04-02-2014, 01:47 AM (This post was last modified: 04-02-2014, 01:51 AM by admin89.)
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With Intel Stock Fan , you should give up on overclocking . If you want a futureproof CPU , Xeon E3-1230V3 is the best option for you
Xeon E3-1230V3 is an i7 4770 (non-k or can't be overclocked) on steroids . It's only 20$ more expensive than i5 4670k but you can pair it with a cheaper mobo like B85 mobo
The only downside of that Xeon is no integrated GPU
B85 mobo cost like half of a Z87 mobo ...So you can spend that extra money on sth like EVGA GTX 750
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 45TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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04-02-2014, 02:09 AM (This post was last modified: 04-02-2014, 02:32 AM by skanob.)
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(04-02-2014, 01:47 AM)admin89 Wrote: With Intel Stock Fan , you should give up on overclocking . If you want a futureproof CPU , Xeon E3-1230V3 is the best option for you
Xeon E3-1230V3 is an i7 4770 (non-k or can't be overclocked) on steroids . It's only 20$ more expensive than i5 4670k but you can pair it with a cheaper mobo like B85 mobo
The only downside of that Xeon is no integrated GPU
B85 mobo cost like half of a Z87 mobo ...So you can spend that extra money on sth like EVGA GTX 750

These are the cheapest it can go for what is available here in AUS:

Quote:PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card ($135.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $784.99 <--- AUS price

That is just, WOW!, with the price difference in AUS and US. This is the cheapest it can go on the US Market.

Quote:PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($203.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($80.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $505.92 <---- US price
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04-02-2014, 02:19 AM (This post was last modified: 04-02-2014, 02:26 AM by admin89.)
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B85 mobo , not H87 mobo ...
Btw , that power supply is way too overkilled . GTX 750 power consumption is only around 55W , that Xeon power consumption is only 80W . 300W PSU is more than enough for a system like that
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 45TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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04-02-2014, 02:28 AM (This post was last modified: 04-02-2014, 02:33 AM by skanob.)
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(04-02-2014, 02:19 AM)admin89 Wrote: B85 mobo , not H87 mobo ...
Btw , that power supply is way too overkilled . GTX 750 power consumption is only around 55W , that Xeon power consumption is only 80W . 300W PSU is more than enough for a system like that

yup. corrected. thanks.

the price difference is really is big. I know that these are just estimates, but right now, I wish I'm in the US.. Sad

(04-02-2014, 02:19 AM)admin89 Wrote: B85 mobo , not H87 mobo ...
Btw , that power supply is way too overkilled . GTX 750 power consumption is only around 55W , that Xeon power consumption is only 80W . 300W PSU is more than enough for a system like that

I corrected it on the US build.. Unfortunately, in AUS, that one I listed there is the cheapest with least W.. I might still be able to find on some physical stores here..
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