Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k

[TKSilver]

You do, but also kep in mind that it's base frequency is 4.2GHz (it does not turbo). So you might not need to overclock and you might not get much overclocking out of it. Also the more heat and power you are using on the CPU side the less performance you can get from the iGPU with out running into power\thermal throttling if your cooling and your board's power delivery is not up to it.

[Karmeck]

(02-13-2018, 02:55 AM)TKSilver Wrote: You do, but also kep in mind that it's base frequency is 4.2GHz (it does not turbo).  So you might not need to overclock and you might not get much overclocking out of it.  Also the more heat and power you are using on the CPU side the less performance you can get from the iGPU with out running into power\thermal throttling if your cooling and your board's power delivery is not up to it.

From my understanding the noctua should be up to the task. But most if not all peopel that write about the Noctuas performance don't use the iGPU. 

However the cpu will be the only thing generating any major heat and i plan on using several 120mm fans for quiet cooling in the chassi. 

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

As it's only a 2c/4t CPU, you really don't need much in the way of cooling if you aren't going to use a z-series motherboard.

[Karmeck]

(02-13-2018, 06:03 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: As it's only a 2c/4t CPU, you really don't need much in the way of cooling if you aren't going to use a z-series motherboard.

Oh, but I am:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YvM2Ft

Once again, this is a shopping list. Will try to get some parts as used.

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

Regarding the Ryzen 2200G and 2400G, it looks like at least in Dolphin 5.0 that its performance unfortunately isn't really any different than the Ryzen 1400 (the 2400G performed somewhat worse than the 2200G indicating that SMT may be causing issues, but again this is in Dolphin 5.0 rather than new dev builds):

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12425/marrying-vega-and-zen-the-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-review/7 Wrote:

[sirdaniel]

Yea, 4.2 ghz clock is a killer. Still no double RAM sticks in your part list.

by the way look at cinebench scores https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2400G_Vega_11/9.html
Ryzen is a king in multithreaded use and still behind in single core performance. Not a bad chip on-the-whole, just still not yet enough for emulation

[JonnyH]

Remember, the 5.0 test is worst cast for ryzen - newer dev builds improved the performance on ryzen specifically (apparently from a compiler update?)

And once again, once you get to the point that the cpu can keep up with the emulated wii - CPU performance doesn't matter. Though that point does change based on game and features that it's required to emulate, but there's no point going much beyond that point and other things (like a *much* faster integrated graphics system) may give a better experience.

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

(02-13-2018, 08:22 AM)JonnyH Wrote: Remember, the 5.0 test is worst cast for ryzen - newer dev builds improved the performance on ryzen specifically (apparently from a compiler update?)

That's why I specifically mentioned it being Dolphin 5.0, but even then the newer dev builds do not provide enough performance uplift for 1000-series Ryzen CPUs to surpass Haswell.

[JonnyH]

(02-13-2018, 08:26 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: That's why I specifically mentioned it being Dolphin 5.0, but even then the newer dev builds do not provide enough performance uplift for 1000-series Ryzen CPUs to surpass Haswell.

No, but if that extra performance isn't needed it doesn't matter. Once it reaches 100% wii speed, extra cpu performance overhead gives you *nothing*.

Not many games need more than "only" haswell.

[Karmeck]

(02-13-2018, 08:17 AM)sirdaniel Wrote: Yea, 4.2 ghz clock is a killer. Still no double RAM sticks in your part list.

by the way look at cinebench scores https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2400G_Vega_11/9.html
Ryzen is a king in multithreaded use and still behind in single core performance. Not a bad chip on-the-whole, just still not yet enough for emulation

Right you are:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j8W6MZ

It is my understanding 8GB is enough.