A8-3520M, Not reaching full potential?

[Starscream]

(02-25-2012, 11:30 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Quote:Technically it's not overclocking since all you're doing is forcing it to do what it's supposed to be doing anyway.

No it shouldn't. It MAY reach 2.3 GHz under a light single core workload but if 2 or more cores are active it probably won't. You are overclocking it in the most literal sense of the word.

Doubtful. That would mean I was able to overclock my laptop a full 1GHz with no issues. That would be quite the huge overclock for the laptop to still be running normal. That wouldn't be possible unless this hardware was designed to reach those speeds already.

[NaturalViolence]

You're still not getting it. Please read the page of the article I linked, it's the best explanation of turbocore that I've been able to find.

To summarize your clock rate should be somewhere IN BETWEEN the minimum (1.4GHz if I recall) and the maximum (2.3 GHz). Turbocore is essentially a dynamic clock rate that throttles clock rate based on current TDP, it is extremely unlikely that it should be able to reach the maximum clock rate while running dolphin since dolphin is dual threaded.

It is designed to reach 2.3 GHz but only under certain conditions (low TDP), conditions which multithreaded software, like dolphin, can almost never produce. By allowing it to reach 2.3GHz even when these conditions are not met you are allowing it to exceed the hardwired TDP maximum, which is overclocking.

[Starscream]

You're saying the same thing I am. We're just clashing on the word "overclock". It doesn't really matter. The fact is that there is no danger in forcing the speeds that the laptop would run under certain circumstances and doing it on demand myself.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:The fact is that there is no danger in forcing the speeds that the laptop would run under certain circumstances and doing it on demand myself.

Read that again. That makes no sense whatsoever. You're saying that there is no danger in forcing it to do something it would normally do only under a certain set of conditions even if those conditions are not met. That's like saying "I know I'm only supposed to push this button when the reactor overloads but seeing as how the system is designed to have a button it should be fine if I push it even when the reactor isn't overloading".

Normally it will only reach 2.3GHz if only one core is active or if all of the other cores are under relatively light workloads. By overclocking it to 2.3GHz you're forcing it to run at 2.3GHz even with multiple cores under heavy load. That puts way more stress on the cpu and raises your temperature/power consumption substantially past what it was designed for.

I'm trying to get three things across:
1. It's not supposed to be running at 2.3Ghz when running dolphin so it's not "supposed to be doing it anyways". You're pushing the TDP past the manufacterers specifications when you do this.
2. You are overclocking no matter what definition of the word you use.
3. We're clearly not saying the same thing with different semantics.

[Cebitz]

Just get one of those cooling kits for the laptop and you will be fine, then oc it like mad.

[Starscream]

(02-26-2012, 07:20 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Quote:The fact is that there is no danger in forcing the speeds that the laptop would run under certain circumstances and doing it on demand myself.

Read that again. That makes no sense whatsoever. You're saying that there is no danger in forcing it to do something it would normally do only under a certain set of conditions even if those conditions are not met. That's like saying "I know I'm only supposed to push this button when the reactor overloads but seeing as how the system is designed to have a button it should be fine if I push it even when the reactor isn't overloading".

Normally it will only reach 2.3GHz if only one core is active or if all of the other cores are under relatively light workloads. By overclocking it to 2.3GHz you're forcing it to run at 2.3GHz even with multiple cores under heavy load. That puts way more stress on the cpu and raises your temperature/power consumption substantially past what it was designed for.

I'm trying to get three things across:
1. It's not supposed to be running at 2.3Ghz when running dolphin so it's not "supposed to be doing it anyways". You're pushing the TDP past the manufacterers specifications when you do this.
2. You are overclocking no matter what definition of the word you use.
3. We're clearly not saying the same thing with different semantics.

Can you get over the phrase "supposed to be doing it" and replace it with "is capable of doing it"? Will that make it all better for you?

What about running the laptop in a manor that it was not designed for:

1) It is possible.
2) It works.
3) Who cares what it was designed to do.
4) It has stood the test of months.
5) I have nothing else to say about it.
6) Hi, it sill works.
7) You still reading these?

(02-26-2012, 07:21 AM)Cebitz Wrote: Just get one of those cooling kits for the laptop and you will be fine, then oc it like mad.

Don't need one, I'm already fine.