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2015: Which CPU is good enough?
12-04-2015, 02:23 AM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2015, 02:27 AM by ENAI.)
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(12-04-2015, 12:14 AM)TheFirePlayer14540 Wrote: Okay, what is lighter virtualization by the way? And the 6700K is better than the others for Dolphin as well with recording with OBS?

Essentially "not so frequent or demanding virtualization". If you have, say, one Linux Mint running in a virtual machine, then almost any CPU can hadle that. An i7 (or a Xeon for that matter) is only needed when you have upwards of around four resource heavy operating systems in a virtual environment.

(12-04-2015, 12:17 AM)TheFirePlayer14540 Wrote: So you are saying it's better to go with 6700K for Dolphin as well with recording? Will it run any game with no lag/slowdowns?

The 6700K is pretty much the best thing you could run Dolphin on. All (well optimized) games will run with no trouble, and if you OC you can pretty much do whatever you want in Dolphin, including speedhacks etc.

(12-04-2015, 12:36 AM)KHg8m3r Wrote: Even if the difference isn't huge, it is still better Tongue


The i7-6700K has 2 generations of improvements over the i7-4790K, so in Dolphin, its around 5-15% faster. Because the other cores are also faster, it'll be able to handle more CPU intensive tasks.
Of the top of my head, I can't think of any games that are so brutal that the i7-6700K won't run because of the optimizations that Dolphin has made over the years.

Well, I wouldn't exactly call Broadwell (5000-series) a complete line of CPUs. They were only marketed with their integrated graphics and/or for prosumer use, pretty much the opposite of the general gamer crowd. 6700K is the direct successor to the 4790K, which took the place of the 4770K. And while yes, the 6700K is faster, the price difference is nowhere near justifiable when Microcenter has the 4790K for 250$. I'd say that 50$ is the most that I would pay for the 6700K's extras, if virtualization is not the main goal that is.

(12-04-2015, 01:02 AM)TheFirePlayer14540 Wrote: Also, what is video conversion?

The conversion of the file type. Let's say that you record lossless video for the highest possible quality (which is usually recommended), but then later want to archive the footage. Lossless video takes up a lot of room, so it's smarter to convert it to a format that gives up on some detail, but is a lot smaller on the hard drive.

(12-04-2015, 01:05 AM)TheFirePlayer14540 Wrote: You don't know what games don't work with my CPU?

Once again, 6700K, 4790K as well as 4690K will give you a smooth and enjoyable experience in Dolphin. In pc games the choice matters even less as most of the work is done by the GPU. I don't think I've ever seen any of those CPUs bottlenecking a gaming system, so you will be able to run pretty much anything on them.
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12-04-2015, 02:25 AM
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If the 6700k cannot play a game, then it probably means the emulation is broken for that game. Sounds like money is not too much of a concern and since your current system is not ideal for Dolphin, get the i7 skylake. You'll be very happy with it and will not regret it. It'll be able to run most games on Dolphin and PCSX2, and PC just fine. Come back and let us know how you like it!
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12-04-2015, 05:34 AM
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Okay, everything is good with the CPU now. Whatt about the GPU? I know the NVidia is a waste of money due to it being $1,000, but is it any good at all?
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12-04-2015, 06:16 AM
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The Titan X is the best single GPU you can buy.
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12-04-2015, 07:06 AM
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(12-04-2015, 06:16 AM)KHg8m3r Wrote: The Titan X is the best single GPU you can buy.

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12-04-2015, 07:10 AM
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Okay, so for the last verdict:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K
GPU: MSI NVidia GTX TITAN X
RAM: Now undecided
OS: Windows 10 Pro N
Motherboard: MSI Z170A TITANIUM Edition

Any votes on this hardware, or any suggestions, questions or anything else before I finish up this thread up here?
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12-04-2015, 07:51 AM
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Get at least 16 GB of RAM.
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12-04-2015, 08:45 AM
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(12-04-2015, 07:10 AM)TheFirePlayer14540 Wrote: Okay, so for the last verdict:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K
GPU: MSI NVidia GTX TITAN X
RAM: Now undecided
OS: Windows 10 Pro N
Motherboard: MSI Z170A TITANIUM Edition

Any votes on this hardware, or any suggestions, questions or anything else before I finish up this thread up here?

As I already mentioned earlier, the Titan X is a huge waste of money. The GTX 980 Ti is literally the same GPU for far less money, just a few CUDA cores disabled. You can just take a look at any benchmark and see that a 980 Ti performs withing a 2% margin of a Titan X. If you necessarily want to go with an AMD card, the Fury X offers similar performance and also a similar price compared to the 980 Ti. It doesn't really matter which one you choose, but keep in mind that all Fury X's come with a closed liquid cooler so be prepared to fit that into your case. Just a single radiator but still.

Bottom line: GTX 980 Ti and Fury X are the flagships and the ones to buy. The Titan X is just a showpiece and for people who are tricked to believing that 12GB VRAM is necessary for gaming. Even the original Titan is more useful since it's still the best GPU for floating point calculations and other raw computing.
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12-04-2015, 11:17 AM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2015, 11:18 AM by TheFirePlayer14540.)
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(12-04-2015, 08:45 AM)ENAI Wrote:
(12-04-2015, 07:10 AM)TheFirePlayer14540 Wrote: Okay, so for the last verdict:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K
GPU: MSI NVidia GTX TITAN X
RAM: Now undecided
OS: Windows 10 Pro N
Motherboard: MSI Z170A TITANIUM Edition

Any votes on this hardware, or any suggestions, questions or anything else before I finish up this thread up here?

As I already mentioned earlier, the Titan X is a huge waste of money. The GTX 980 Ti is literally the same GPU for far less money, just a few CUDA cores disabled. You can just take a look at any benchmark and see that a 980 Ti performs withing a 2% margin of a Titan X. If you necessarily want to go with an AMD card, the Fury X offers similar performance and also a similar price compared to the 980 Ti. It doesn't really matter which one you choose, but keep in mind that all Fury X's come with a closed liquid cooler so be prepared to fit that into your case. Just a single radiator but still.

Bottom line: GTX 980 Ti and Fury X are the flagships and the ones to buy. The Titan X is just a showpiece and for people who are tricked to believing that 12GB VRAM is necessary for gaming. Even the original Titan is more useful since it's still the best GPU for floating point calculations and other raw computing.

Okay, I have two other GPUs.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPER...=nvida+660
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814127904

Do these improve for Dolphin?

(Update) My planned motherboard can have four GPUs in it.
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12-04-2015, 11:19 AM
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Both of those links are broken
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